[100NL 6max] Flush vs Massive raise on paired board

***** Hand History for Game 7542143118 *****
$100 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, November 16, 13:20:29 ET 2008
Table Jackpot #1305316 (No DP) (real money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 3: Toffail ( $107.90 USD )
Seat 4: desais ( $190.63 USD )
Seat 1: HERO( $212.73 USD )
Seat 6: Sawa_chan ( $126.25 USD )
Seat 5: chatty77 ( $101.50 USD )
Seat 2: Moneybox_7 ( $103.58 USD )
desais posts small blind [$0.50 USD].
chatty77 posts big blind [$1 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9c 7c ]
Sawa_chan folds
HERO calls [$1 USD]
Moneybox_7 calls [$1 USD]
Toffail folds
desais calls [$0.50 USD]
chatty77 checks
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, Qc, As ]
desais checks
chatty77 checks
HERO bets [$3.80 USD]
Moneybox_7 folds
desais calls [$3.80 USD]
chatty77 folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5c ]
desais checks
HERO bets [$5 USD]
desais raises [$26.02 USD]
HERO calls [$21.02 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 5d ]
desais is all-In [$159.81 USD]

HERO??????

First off wth is up with the limp preflop, raise it there. I don't play much 6-max but I doubt open-limping is ever good.

As for the river, any reads on the villain? Seems like your most likely beat as there isn't much villain would do this with that your ahead of. Lower flush is definitely the only thing that makes sense that your ahead of. I think I fold here though with no reads.

I think that's a pretty clear fold. It was a limped pot and villain was in the SB so could have anything, including A5, Q5, 85, 88, or a higher flush (A-, K-, J- or 10-high). If he has any of those hands you have only one out to improve to a straight flush.

Sure, he could have a weaker hand or be bluffing, but why risk most of your stack to find out?

rileyl said:

First off wth is up with the limp preflop, raise it there. I don't play much 6-max but I doubt open-limping is ever good.

As for the river, any reads on the villain? Seems like your most likely beat as there isn't much villain would do this with that your ahead of. Lower flush is definitely the only thing that makes sense that your ahead of. I think I fold here though with no reads.

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I wasn't gonna raise with a suited connecter in that postion because i can't stand a reraise. I'd have to let it go. Its either limp and hope for a multiway pot or fold.

update:No reads on this guy at all. Except that his stats are 32 15 3 over 100 hands

You should never be open limping at 6max, so raise is or fold it preflop. I also just jam this one on the turn, as villain will call lots of 2 pairs/sets. As played I think you have to fold the river.

But open-limping is just bad imo, your not going to get 3Bet that often and if you do so what fold and move on. If you really are dead set against not raising then just fold. I think your being too nitty for 6-max. I play mostly full ring and trust me I raise alot wider than that in the Hijack position.

rileyl said:

But open-limping is just bad imo, your not going to get 3Bet that often and if you do so what fold and move on. If you really are dead set against not raising then just fold. I think your being too nitty for 6-max. I play mostly full ring and trust me I raise alot wider than that in the Hijack position.

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Yeah your probably right i am playing pretty nitty.

Then move to FR you will be much better off playing nitty at FR then you will be at 6-max.

Good chance villian has Ac and any other card. With that he can put a lot of pressure on you w TP and nut flush draw. The overbet on the paired river isn't inconsistent with that either.... he's just moved into a tie with possible hands of yours like AJ, AT.

In any event, agreed, as played... you need to fold river.