100nl 6max - broadway on river

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do u think this was a good fold? any comments?


Hand # 65383701 starting - 2008-11-29 23:37:02
Captain Jack Hold 'em (0.50|1.00 NL - Cash Game) real money

Floppy-Ninja sitting in seat 1 with R252.00 Dealer
Fish_Dunmore sitting in seat 2 with R33.55
kapteinCr00k sitting in seat 3 with R133.20
hth sitting in seat 4 with R133.45
Geo3 sitting in seat 5 with R152.63
RiverShifter sitting in seat 6 with R99.50
Fish_Dunmore posted the small blind - R0.50
kapteinCr00k posted the big blind - R1.00


Dealing cards to kapteinCr00k
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hth called - R1.00
Geo3 called - R1.00
RiverShifter folded
Floppy-Ninja folded
Fish_Dunmore folded
kapteinCr00k bet - R3.00
hth called - R3.00
Geo3 called - R3.00


FLOP:
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2d.png
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kapteinCr00k bet - R9.50
hth called - R9.50
Geo3 called - R9.50


TURN:
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kapteinCr00k checked
hth bet - R2.00
Geo3 called - R2.00
kapteinCr00k raised to R10.00
hth called - R10.00
Geo3 called - R10.00


RIVER:
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kapteinCr00k checked
hth bet - R2.00
Geo3 went all-in - R130.13
kapteinCr00k folded
hth folded
Geo3 mucks

Geo3 wins R196.53 from the main pot
 
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Naaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

I don't think so. I think you got bluffed out.

Sorry, bad fold.

You should've bet high on the turn when you hit your straight.
 
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Thank you effexor, I will read that article... Just want to let you know that the players at the stakes I am playing are extremely weak... vpip of that player was around 60... and these players dont fold draws most of the time, so... but I agree with you about this hand... It was possible that I got bluffed... but I dont know, I wished he showed the hand.
 
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I looked over the past 2 hands that you posted and I have one suggestion.

Visit here:

https://www.cardschat.com/poker-strategy.php

Look over, read and study the odds sections. Your bet sizing is not good and hopefully you will read the odds articles and understand why.

also effexor, I am familiar with odds... do u think it is a good Idea to not give your opponent odds to draw, even if u think they will call?
would that be making me more money in the long run?
thanks...
 
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hmm in my book not such a good fold although what must the other guy hit on the river to go all in , he must hit the the flush or it was a full on bluff but that would be up to u to decide on how he played up to this hand did he bluff a lot did he play marginal hands out of postion u got to be ur own adviser
 
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If players draw a lot that is a reason to make your bets bigger.
They will call more and they will draw without having odds. this will definitely make you more money !

So bet more, if they fold so be it, if they call and hit, so be it you gave them bad odds to chase and they did so actually they are playing losing poker. If they call and miss, more money for you :).
 
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I bet the turn, then bet-fold river. As played I think you can fold without reads. Most shoves, especially when only one obvious draw completes and it beats you, are the nuts.
 
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I bet the turn, then bet-fold river. As played I think you can fold without reads. Most shoves, especially when only one obvious draw completes and it beats you, are the nuts.

I don't get it.
What draw completed that beats our broadway ?
 
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I looked over the past 2 hands that you posted and I have one suggestion.

Visit here:

https://www.cardschat.com/poker-strategy.php

Look over, read and study the odds sections. Your bet sizing is not good and hopefully you will read the odds articles and understand why.

I agree. If that guy made a flush on the river which I dont think he did, he got such nice odds to continue that hand after the flop. His odds were rediculous to continue on the turn. I dont like the check raise much on the turn, especially since your CR amount was for just a hair more than your flop bet. I understand the want/need to extract more money out of hands by allowing players to call an amount you think is reasonable.

In this case if youre not gonna fire that 3rd barrel on the turn and insist upon check raising then check raise for an amount of 1.5-2x the pot. Ur crushing the range of all hands except for AKd..........might as well make them pay properly (giving incorrect odds to draw) than giving them the opportunity to draw basically for free.

I do think he bluffed you on the river.......
 
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hmmm. looking over the hand after all the comments, I still don't think I was bluffed, I very much agree with all ur advice of giving incorrect odds for the draw, but u guys must remember these are micro limit stakes, and ppl will call disgusting odds with a gutshot str8 draw... that is one reason I dont bother betting too much. It is possible that one of these donks had AQ... but I dont think so, 2 guys calling me down to the river? seems like one of them have flush, otherwise AK, but i doubt it... these players are really weak, im not joking. but I appreciate all ur advice... I think I should get used to betting correct odds... even tho these donks call with any odds... I think when I move up to higher stakes I could not get away with this.

thanks a lot.
 
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Just to let u know, Geo3's VPIP based on 53 hands is 81, PFR 0, 3BET 0, Postflop AGG 0, Won $ at SD 47%... Based on those stats I reckon i hit a flush... anyone else agree?
 
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