$100 PLO Set with draws

bubbasbestbabe

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Shorthanded PLO. Players here are major chasers.

Stacks:
* BB with $144.85
* UTG with $144.20
* MP with $120.00
* BTN with $24.75
* SB with $151.75

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Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: pokerstars
* * Dealt to UTG:6♥ 3♠ 3♥ K♠ Small pair double suited. Pay to see flop.
Preflop: Hero calls [$1]
* * 2 players fold.
* * SB calls [$0.50]
* * BB: checks
* * Total folds this street: 2
* * Potsize: $3
Flop: K♥ 3♦ 10♥
* * SB: checks
* * BB bets [$2] Hero raises $6.85 to $8.85 Hit my set with low flush draw. And possible FB draw.
* * SB calls [$8.85]
* * BB calls [$6.85]
* * Potsize: $29.55
Turn: 7♦
* * SB: checks
* * BB bets [$20] Hero calls [$20] Not sure if this was mistake. I think I should have potted it here.

* * SB calls [$20]
* * Potsize: $89.55
River: K♣
* * SB: checks
* * BB bets [$45] Hero raises $69.35 to $114.35 [ all-in ] Hit my boat.

* * 1 players fold. < Obv. missed his flush.

* * BB calls [$69.35] < What do you think the villians range is here?
* * Total folds this street: 1


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naruto_miu

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Personally I lost to much money in this game, so my guesses aren't really relivant here, but I just can't see this player making such a big call with just trips here, it really doesn't make sense (but I've seen ppl do it), as for my guess, up well really there's acouple of hands here that have you beat, k/10,k7, and maybe pocket 10s, other then this I just can't see any other hands, calling here
 
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plz let me know what he/she had btw
 
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Fold preflop, almost definitely. (How many ways can you make the nuts?)
 
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Preflop is just as bad as the last UTG hand you posted, it should really be a very standard muck. I'd be interested to know just what your hand requirements are for EP in PLO ?

Edit : Actually raising is far far better than limping.
 
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lol, ditto what tenbob and vanquish said. raising def better than limping, unless your at a table where theres a lot of reraising going on preflop, you fold this hand regardless.

No clue what he can have too many things he could have anything, even a pair of aces possibly which sounds pretty dumb, maybe a set of kings with just ace kicker, or he could have you completely dominated
 
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bbb, u like to see flops but this isnt the best situation to see a flop so fold preflop
im a nit when i play omaha and the flop isnt really that good imo as u only have bottom set and ur redraw is pretty weak, its a decent flop at best so i would lean to just calling and try to reach showdown cheaply
imo, potting the turn would have been a mistake as u wont be called by any hand u beat and u would rarely fold out hands that beat you so a call is better than raise
on the river, i would probably just call his bet instead of reraising as again u only fold out a bluff and missed draws and lower FB , villain is repping a huge hand here and i doubt any sensible omaha player will bet 10s full (or call with it) here, so it might be a mistake to reraise here as u never get called by a hand u beat unless ur up against a fishy calling station

imo fold preflop and maybe on the turn
 
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I'm a work in progress. :D

From the feed back I'm getting I've been tightening my play. This is why I'm posting a lot of these very marginal hands. For the record he was calling with two pair. K/10 and no other draws.

Just out of curiosity, would you call with this hand in any situation?
 
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bottom sets are trouble in PLO, your hand is trash as others have said

you did hit the flop hard but its more of a case of win little lose lots situation

as for would I ever play it, if its folded to me in late position I'd raise it up and fire a cbet at the flop, though this would depend on any reads I had on the players and how many i'm against on the flop

though calling with it, perhaps not ;]
 
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If your gonna play that hand, why did you raise on the river though. You couldn't have been trying to think you were gonna bet him off the hand because if he likes his hand in any type of way pot odds pretty much commits him to that pot on the river when he bets.

If you were going to play the hand fast with your particular hand you should be raising everything or initiating the betting especially after you raised on the flop. In this particular hand it wouldnt have mattered regardless, maybe you would've been able to raise him off of his hand if you pot max/ 3 bet it on the turn pends on how loose the player calls.

Thing is he initiated the action on every street, even after you raised him. This is a situation where you probably want to give him some type of respect here. Rarely will you see a player initiate action every street even when they've been raised, unless they are a hyper aggy, im just gonna assume he's not hyper aggy cus most hyper aggys would pot that hand each street.

If he's a chaser thats cool, but theres a difference between a player that initiates action with his draws no matter what, and someone that will call down his draws or maybe intiate on the flop to pick up a pot but slow down by the turn and pretty much check on the river. Before that hand you have to decide based on what you know which one he is...

based on that you should know whether your raising, folding or calling on the river. This is a clear call right here, not a raise because you risk too much raising regardless of what he has. If you haven't seen him do this same action with a weaker hand in a previous showdown ( I wanna say damn near at least twice), in a very similar situation you don't raise.

Budda I just don't understand why you wouldn't be willing to raise on the turn, but your willing to raise on the river with 3 people in the pot 2 of them being the blinds who can easily have anything on that board just cus they're blinds
 
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lol, well its not necessarily a clear call, I'm just saying your in the hand, and based on your table players, it seemed like you definitely weren't folding. I don't know if you got the evidence to fold on the river thats something you would know probably more than we would. Clearly folding wasn't in your mind here (correct me if I'm wrong) so your left with either calling or raising and thats what I meant when I said: "This is a clear call right here". I don't want that to get taken out of context.
 
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