$100 PLO Heads-up: 100plo how do we proceed?

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 70/55/3

Villain is possibly a little looser than some might be HU but is a solid, thinking player capable of triple barreling and also extracting thin value. He has a 21 3b%. How should we proceed with this hand?

Merge - $1 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $100.00
BB: $140.03

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has K:club: A:spade: 6:spade: J:spade:

Hero raises to $3.00, BB raises to $9.00, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($18.00, 2 players) A:heart: 7:club: 2:heart:
BB bets $12.00, Hero calls $12.00

Turn: ($42.00, 2 players) 7:spade:
BB bets $28.00, Hero???
 
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I think the paired 7 is horrible card for our perceived continuing range and as such is a likely place for him to barrel. I have no real issues calling here and re-evaluating the river, weighted towards calling most of the time to bluff catch. This is an extremely weak hand to normally bluff catch with but the dynamics of the flop and turn really up value TPTK type hands in this spot.
 
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I prolly call & call most rivers too. Only a 7 realistically beats you here right? Could he also thin VB AQxx thinking you'd call with flush draws?
 
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Depending on my specific read, I am either raising or folding this turn. I like a small raise to $28-$32, as opponent is likely to be barreling with a medium rundown with 2 hearts, or possibly worse Axxx hands with a couple broadway cards (i.e. AQ10x.) If we get reraised on turn we can fold.

Call any non heart rivers/pot it if checked to.
 
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um, raising the turn is batsh1t crazy and raise-folding is even nuttier. The minimum you could raise is $56 so you'd have $23 left over.
 
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um, raising the turn is batsh1t crazy and raise-folding is even nuttier. The minimum you could raise is $56 so you'd have $23 left over.

What do you think about folding?
 
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Raising the turn is out of the question. We raise out hands that we beat and only get called/shoved on by hands that have us dominated. Turn is basically a do you call or fold situation.
 
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Also keep in mind this is a 3 bet pot.
 
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Raising the turn is out of the question. We raise out hands that we beat and only get called/shoved on by hands that have us dominated. Turn is basically a do you call or fold situation.

Is that how you feel based on your read? Opponent is not calling small raises with medium sized flush draws or weaker Aces? How was he reacting to what he thought looked like steal attempts? I really don't think a small raise on the turn is out of the question, depending on the way this HU battle has been going.
 
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And now I realize that I was misreading the HH. Thought the $12 bet was on the turn, lol. Obviously it's either a call or fold.
 
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Call, call seems to make the most sense to me.
 
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I actually think against this guy we call turn and call non-heart rivers.
 
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I think the paired 7 is horrible card for our perceived continuing range and as such is a likely place for him to barrel.

This is a good point because our hand pretty much looks exactly like it is.
 
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Ok, so the consensus seems to be to call. Here's the river:

Merge - $1 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $100.00
BB: $140.03

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has K:club: A:spade: 6:spade: J:spade:

Hero raises to $3.00, BB raises to $9.00, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($18.00, 2 players) A:heart: 7:club: 2:heart:
BB bets $12.00, Hero calls $12.00

Turn: ($42.00, 2 players) 7:spade:
BB bets $28.00, Hero calls $28.00

River: ($98.00, 2 players) Q:diamond:
BB bets $91.03 and is all-in, Hero ???
 
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I am more likely to call a heart river than say a Q or a T. I think hearts are a tiny portion of his range given that Ah is dead.

Edit: my comment was made at the same time as the results. Fold river.
 
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The problem here is most river cards are bad ones. Now he has drawn out on us with his AQxx hands and QQxx hands in his range. As played I wouldn't be surprised to see AQQx hands show up here. I am stubborn and I have to call this river, not sure if it's necessarily the correct play, but I call.
 
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Surprised so far that no one even mentioned the possibility of AAxx in villain's range considering this was 3b pre.
 
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If his range is going to be largely AA for 3-betting pre and bombing this board then fold on the flop.
 
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It's not largely his range as noted by his high 3b% (21) but I was just a little surprised that no one even mentioned it. FWIW villain doesn't have AAxx here.
 
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You only need to be right ~25% of the time here, so I would call here.
 
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Surprised so far that no one even mentioned the possibility of AAxx in villain's range considering this was 3b pre.

Given the 21% 3bet and the 2 dead aces it is only a fraction of his range. He shows up with AQJx or some sort of heart suited rundown 7x most of the time here. We chop with AKxx and we beat the rare AJxx as well as his missed hearts. I just don't think we are ahead often enough
 
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Most of the hands that he plays this way that we beat are going to be Axxxhh hands. Once the flush hits we'll be hard-pressed to have much equity vs. his 3-barreling range.

I don't like calling here, but I'd hero it I think. I'd be more inclined to fold if he typed in our stack size or something.
 
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Results:

Merge - $1 PL Hi (2 max) - Omaha - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (SB): $100.00
BB: $140.03

Hero posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero has K:club: A:spade: 6:spade: J:spade:

Hero raises to $3.00, BB raises to $9.00, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($18.00, 2 players) A:heart: 7:club: 2:heart:
BB bets $12.00, Hero calls $12.00

Turn: ($42.00, 2 players) 7:spade:
BB bets $28.00, Hero calls $28.00

River: ($98.00, 2 players) Q:diamond:
BB bets $91.03 and is all-in, Hero calls $51.00 and is all-in

BB shows 8:diamond: T:heart: 8:spade: A:diamond: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (Pre 54%, Flop 23%, Turn 17%)
Hero shows K:club: A:spade: 6:spade: J:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Sevens) (Pre 46%, Flop 77%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins $199.50
 
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Him shoving his stack in on the river is suspect. Putting me in for $51.00 would have been diff but the way the hand played this seemed like a pretty easy call down with AKxx.
 
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Not a fan. You need to remove "solid, thinking" from your OP cause that is a bad read. This play is lunacy.
 
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