$100 NLHE Full Ring: TPTK AK OOP - multi-way pot - monotone board

$100 NL HE Full Ring: TPTK AK OOP - multi-way pot - monotone board

I wasn't sure what I should have done in this spot, sucks to be out of position for this hand. Anyone have any ideas?

UTG+2 is a unknown playing 17/17/0 over small sample
CO seems fishy, 38/0/0 over bout 50 hands
BTN is a solid regular playing 7/7/INF

This session i'm 14/14/INF over 50 hands this session.

I'm thinking bet to take the pot and to get action from draws and worse aces, but a 4 spade would kill my hand + give the inititive to whoever calls me and a chance to take a stab at it.

I also wouldn't want to bet and get raised on the flop. Nor do I really want to check and fold.

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HAND #1
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Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
MP3: 36.2 bb
CO: 75.5 bb
BTN: 100 bb
SB: 45.7 bb
BB: 12.6 bb
UTG+2: 89.6 bb
MP1: 102.2 bb
Hero (MP2): 105.9 bb


Pre-Flop: Hero is MP2 with A♦ K♥
UTG+2 calls 1 bb, MP1 folds, Hero raises to 4.5 bb, MP3 folds, CO calls 4.5 bb, BTN calls 4.5 bb, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls 3.5 bb
Flop: (19.5 bb) Q♠ A♠ 3♠ (4 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero ?

Anyone go for checking back for pot control because we are multiway and OOP? What about check raising if co bets? I suck at these situations

I don't hate checking the flop (and obviously calling one bet, but probably fold if the action goes bet/raise back to us), but I think it's better to bet/fold. I don't think you'll get check/raised as semi-bluff very often because it's unusual for decent players to have offsuit cards (e.g. KsQd) and limp/call. So if you get raised, you're going to be up against a flush or a set too often to continue. On average.

If you bet the flop, how to proceed on the turn obviously depends on who calls your bet. If it's the fishy player, I would bet any non-spade turn as well, purely for value, and then probably check/call any river (including spade). If it's the decent player who check/calls, I think you can check back the turn and re-evaluate on the river. I wouldn't bet a fourth spade on the river versus UTG+2.

why arent we betting his flop for value FP? TP multiway on a two toned flop can probably lead to some more difficult later street decisions?

I personally cbet to get value from FD's, Qx/AJ/A10, If called I probably barrell again on a brick river and fold if raised.

Jurn8 said:

why arent we betting his flop for value FP? TP multiway on a two toned flop can probably lead to some more difficult later street decisions?

I personally cbet to get value from FD's, Qx/AJ/A10, If called I probably barrell again on a brick river and fold if raised.

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It's not a two-tone flop, though, it's monotone. Like I said, I like putting in one bet on the flop, but I probably fold if raised.

I swear I have problems reading on here lol.

Yeah I like a bet flop and go from there then but obvs fold if raised

Pot sized bet. Period.

Check-call is bad , because you will fold to future action on turn. Check-fold is obviously not going to win the hand.

Bet strong. Try to take it now. Bet at least 15 BB and then think more after that.. There's no other winning strategy here.

You can tell us the flop action and the turn card now...

I'd bet 2/3 pot to extract value from single spades and AJ/AT type hands

Edit: and fold if raised

I elected to bet 2/3 pot to either win the hand or get value from draws/weak ace.

$13 into $19.50

I get flatted by CO and UTG+2.

Turn $45.50 Js

UTG +2 Check, I check, CO check.

River 2h

UTG +2 Check, I check, CO check.

UTG+2 shows A3 of hearts
CO shows QQ and wins.

Thanks all for reply. I liked betting better, but thought about checking since it was multi-way.