This is a discussion on $100 NLHE Full Ring: Stack off with top top with 55bb, standard or poorly played? within the online poker forums, in the Cash Game Hand Analysis section; Online Poker game.My stack(BTN): $60
Villain:(UTG +1): $150
Fish(SB) : $100
Literally the second hand that I was dealt. During the first hand I folded 2 pairs on
Literally the second hand that I was dealt. During the first hand I folded 2 pairs on the turn in a limped pot while the fish went broke with second pair against a flopped set. The fish rebought immediately.
Villain raised to $4, I called with on the button. Fish and BB called.
Flop Fish led out $5. BB called $5 and the Villain, the preflop raiser raised to $15.
With my stack size I felt like my options are quite limited. If I just call I would provide extra equity for the fish and BB to draw. Of course I could be beat by the Villain but top top just sound too strong to even consider folding, especially with this stack size.
I shoved, fish shoved too(with Q9o), villain snapped and had a set of 10s. Is this a very standard situation or was it poorly played by me? In retrospect, how would you proceed if I am deeper and had say 150-200bb?
Advice very much appreciated!
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With your short stack size, 3-bet prefop and shove the flop.With a full stack, 3-bet and check this wet flop, delay cbet brick turns and fold to a raise.
As played I dont't mind the shove. You have $56 into a $41 pot. If you call and then shove the turn it would be $41 into a $56 or higher pot depending on what the other 2 do. Your TPTK will be ahead most of the time but anyone with a FD or FD+SD has the odds to call you. Obviously you'll run into overpairs and sets a bit and very occasionally 2P. So expectations should be to run about 55-45 in the long term in this spot.
28th February 2018, 7:58 PM
Online Poker at: Pokerstars
Game: 6max zoom
+1 Jillychemung, however given huge fish I would personally just call, that is most likely wrong given we most likely flop top pair type of hand on multi-way pot, but can't be negative EV, especially because we can play without pressure given stack depth.
Preflop raiser raising flop must be strong because he must know fish will not fold, and given price he mostly will just call draws so someone might just say totally opposite because he knows more lol.
Also is OP sure he plays on right level? Having short stack and having doubts about how to play short is bit alarming.
3rd March 2018, 8:12 AM
Poker at: ACR
re: Poker & $100 NLHE Full Ring: Stack off with top top with 55bb, standard or poorly played?
Stacking off on the flop with 1 pair in a multiway pot is almost always the wrong move. That is gambling my friend. You need to put your opponents in a situation where they call your hand, with a worse hand. Shoving this flop will fold out ALL worse hands and only get called by better hands.
How I would have played this hand:
1: I would be flatting the raise, you are not deep enough to 3-bet a drawing hand
2: Flop is a fold. Bet/call/raise in front of you? You have one pair and no redraw in a bloated multiway pot with a wet board. The ONLY hand you are flipping with here is specifically Qs/X, and you are in REALLY bad shape against the rest of his range. Sets, two pairs, combo draws.
3rd March 2018, 8:13 PM
straight draw, flush draw, one higher pair draw.... If its tourney play I'd say early no push, late def push.... I'd have a hard time against a decent bluffer if the better hand comes, and the freakin sharks would smell the blood... so personally I'd probably push it, protect against the draw.... if the draw wasn't as good, I'd probably leave it alone.