$100 NLHE Full Ring: Live, flop trips

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Sorry for the title, forgot to complete it :/

Blinds are £1 for both big and small. I have about 100bb and villain has me covered.

Villain has just sat down, and I havent seen him before.

I have Js 6d in the small blind, villain is the big blind.

3 limpers, I check, villain checks.

(pot £5) flop - 6c 6s 8c

I bet £3, villain raises to £9, 3 folds, I raise to £24, villain calls.

(pot £53) turn - 6c 6s 8c 10s

I bet £32, villain calls.

(pot £117) river - 6c 6s 8c 10s 10d

I check, villain checks and then mucks.

Obviously I won the hand but could I have played it better? Should I bet the river?
 
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Shove river, not close. What are you putting him on, 86/88/Tx that got past the flop?
 
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Shove river, not close. What are you putting him on, 86/88/Tx that got past the flop?

I thought about it, but I was wondering what Im getting called by. Should I not leave his bluff range in?
 
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He had 8 with something but I think you should bet the river because in some other hands the other player maybe to make bluff and to you think that he has 10. So you had to raise. My opinion
 
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He had 8 with something but I think you should bet the river because in some other hands the other player maybe to make bluff and to you think that he has 10. So you had to raise. My opinion

I want him to bluff, Im never folding to a river bet..

He also almost never shows up with a ten here
 
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I check/call.
We split sixes, eights are unlikely to have raised the flop, most overpairs are unlikely to have checked the BB whist flush draws may bluff.

Don't show results.
 
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Shove river, not close. You're almost never behind here. Shoving will get you more value than checking to induce..villain should know its an awful spot to bluff here given stack sizes, and any hands with showdown value will likely check behind (wheras they might call if you bet)

People call with much worse live-I don't consider this a marginal spot to vbet all 3 streets.
 
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I check/call.
We split sixes, eights are unlikely to have raised the flop, most overpairs are unlikely to have checked the BB whist flush draws may bluff.

Don't show results.

This was my exact thinking, Im only really get called by a badly played 8.

I put in the results, then took them out, and then put them back in. I doubt they make much difference on this hand though, I know 90% of the time I have won the hand. This is about extracting value.
 
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Shove river, not close. You're almost never behind here. Shoving will get you more value than checking to induce..villain should know its an awful spot to bluff here given stack sizes, and any hands with showdown value will likely check behind (wheras they might call if you bet)

People call with much worse live-I don't consider this a marginal spot to vbet all 3 streets.

I really dont think this decision is that clear cut. Please tell me what you expect to be called by? And its very possible he was flushing, so why not let him bluff?
 
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I put in the results, then took them out, and then put them back in. I doubt they make much difference on this hand though, I know 90% of the time I have won the hand. This is about extracting value.

Showing villain checking back is pretty much the same as showing results.
You should show none of the action on the river.
 
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Showing villain checking back is pretty much the same as showing results.
You should show none of the action on the river.

I know, I just said I put them in, then took them out, then put them back in again haha.

The reason I did this was because I thought it was obvious I had won the hand anyway. Why would I post a cooler that I couldnt have got away from, regardless of whether I c/c or shoved the river. But I do normally hide results.
 
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Why would I post a cooler that I couldnt have got away from, regardless of whether I c/c or shoved the river. But I do normally hide results.

We're debating a check/call or shove so whether you win or lose isn't really the spolier it's whether villain bets the river or not. If you showed this same hand but with villain betting the river check/calling would appear to be the hindsite line of choice.
 
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I'm thinking 8x (78, 89, mayne a8). All of those probably call a river shove (its a 1/3 psb lol).

Id agree if I thought river was a good bluff sppot for him- I don't, @ all. Live, river bluffs tend to be psb+...he can't expect you to fold much of anything with a$45 bluff there. If you have anything on the board, or ace high even, he can't feel too good about gettng you off it.

Getting fancy unnecessarily imo..most of the $$ is in there already, let him call cause he feels priced in. W/a specific read that he'll spew if he misses or bigger stacks to make a river bluff more believable, maybe.
 
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I don't think 8x is calling a shove tbh. When you see two pair on the board with a good amount of aggression on the flop, your 8x doesn't look too appealing even with the small bet
 
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I'm thinking 8x (78, 89, mayne a8). All of those probably call a river shove (its a 1/3 psb lol).

Id agree if I thought river was a good bluff sppot for him- I don't, @ all. Live, river bluffs tend to be psb+...he can't expect you to fold much of anything with a$45 bluff there. If you have anything on the board, or ace high even, he can't feel too good about gettng you off it.

Getting fancy unnecessarily imo..most of the $$ is in there already, let him call cause he feels priced in. W/a specific read that he'll spew if he misses or bigger stacks to make a river bluff more believable, maybe.

Okay, you've swayed me a little. I still feel an 8 just wont call there enough for it me a snap shove.
 
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River shove would be $67 in to $117 no?
I think 8x would be fairly likely to call the river and turn. But I think it's unlikely to raise the flop mutliway.

Tell you what though I didn't think of 79 which makes me want to shove somewhat more.
 
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River shove would be $67 in to $117 no?
I think 8x would be fairly likely to call the river and turn. But I think it's unlikely to raise the flop mutliway.

Tell you what though I didn't think of 79 which makes me want to shove somewhat more.

Very good point sir
 
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Villain may not call a river shove very often but he'll probably hero call a lot more than he'll bluff and there's almost no chance he'll value-cut himself with an 8 or pocket pair or straight.
 
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I check/call.
We split sixes, eights are unlikely to have raised the flop, most overpairs are unlikely to have checked the BB whist flush draws may bluff.

Don't show results.
I agree with the check/call. Or he could have bet somewhat small to act like he did not want a raise. I would have put him on the six also, with the kicker being the question, and I would have called any bet by him after the river.
 
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I agree with the check/call. Or he could have bet somewhat small to act like he did not want a raise. I would have put him on the six also, with the kicker being the question, and I would have called any bet by him after the river.

I was never folding, I am almost certain I've won the hand. Im just trying to extract value now.
 
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I'm more inclined to shove now I've thought this through.

79 is a big 16combos of value that almost certainly checks back yet is unlikely to fold.
Acxc make up a large portion of villains flush draws yet have more than sufficent showdown value to check rather than bluff on a double paired board.
 
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Yep I agree now, shoving would have been better. I was speaking to one other player at the table last night about it and he said villain said he mucked an 8. I was seat 10 so didnt hear him. Strange flop play though.
 
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