100 NLHE Full Ring: KK on multiway flop facing resistance

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100 NL HE Full Ring: KK on multiway flop facing resistance

I have a few ideas on how I could have tackled this hand differently, I will post the results etc. after discussion, I just want to know primarily my lines pre and post flop, I have an idea of what is gonna be said, just seeing if this thread confirms it :D

NLHE £1/1 blind live game, every seat at the table is full.

UTG: Call
UTG+1 :kc4: :kh4: (Hero, ~150bb): Raise £7
MP (~150bb): Call
HJ (~200bb): Call
UTG: Call

Everyone else folds

Pot £37 Flop: :qd4: :3c4: :2d4:

UTG: Check
Hero: Check
MP: Check
HJ: Bet £15
UTG: Fold
Hero: Call £15
MP: Raise £50 total
HJ: Call £35
Hero: ???

Notes: The reason I called at the time was because of the guy that bet it, the guy I've labelled as HJ was spewing hard, I'd seen him stack a few times in an hour very light, so I wasn't overly concerned of him being particularly strong and decided to call and hope for a second barrel rather than raise and fold out likely a weak holding, I wasn't seeing MP raising at the time after I called. I had the initial intent (wrongly I guess) of check raising upon seeing the flop and it being multi way. MP I had observed seemed reasonably solid, nothing too major of note as yet. The large raise value pre is because it's a live hand and I have an utg limper, though even this didn't seem to secure me an isolated flop on this occasion :D

Any thoughts are much appreciated, thanks
 
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It's live, even seemingly solid players will do stuff like raise QJ for info and protection, so I'm happy getting the money in. You've under-repped your hand a bit, the pot's huge, and there are draws. I'm pretty happy shoving here.
 
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Just shove. you'll bump into AQ / flushdraws and straight draws way more than 33 or 22 (all you're really worried about).
 
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Hero: Fold

Turn :8d4:

MP: Check
HJ: All-in
MP: Fold

HJ: Shows nut flush :ad4: :10d4:

MP then says he had a Queen. I'd convinced myself the guy in MP had a set, hence the fold, he seemed solid and very few pots were getting squeezed or 3bet at all pre flop and thought he could have been setmining.

I see I should raise here obviously and was a reason why I was querying here, though I was also thinking maybe I should be cbetting the flop?
 
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Hero: Fold

Turn :8d4:

MP: Check
HJ: All-in
MP: Fold

HJ: Shows nut flush :ad4: :10d4:

MP then says he had a Queen. I'd convinced myself the guy in MP had a set, hence the fold, he seemed solid and very few pots were getting squeezed or 3bet at all pre flop and thought he could have been setmining.

I see I should raise here obviously and was a reason why I was querying here, though I was also thinking maybe I should be cbetting the flop?

Like I originally said, villains have Qx and flush draws way more than 33 or 22.

OF course CBet this flop. This is one of the best boards KK can ask for. If for some reason you do check, then check/raise! Folding KK on this board is severely outplaying yourself
 
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You played lucky good this hand.Flush draw guy pays the raise.He will maybe pay all in.
 
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Cheers Chuck and Zybomb, pretty much confirmed what I was thinking, much appreciated! :)
 
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