$100 NLHE Full Ring: All-around the worst hand ever! LOL

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$100 NL HE Full Ring: All-around the worst hand ever! LOL

Are there really players this bad on $100NL? :confused: ..........(obviously)

From the pre-flop mini-raise (MP1) to the shove w/ A J on the turn after a re-raise, this hand was 1 of the worst if not the worst hand I've ever witnessed.

p.s. Didn't know quite where to put this, so just stuck it here. This might need to be moved to the General section if need be...


Absolute/UB Cereus No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Absolute/UB Cereus Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($59.85)
SB ($154.51)
BB ($308.15)
UTG ($188.86)
UTG+1 ($67.20)
MP1 ($30.20)
MP2 ($187.60)
CO ($198.50)

Preflop:
2 folds, MP1 bets $2, MP2 calls $2, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($8) A
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, 9
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, 8
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(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 bets $4, MP2 calls $4, SB raises to $8, 1 fold, MP1 calls $4, MP2 calls $4

Turn: ($32) Q
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(3 players)
SB bets $8, MP1 calls $8, MP2 raises to $64, SB raises to $144.51 (All-In), MP1 calls $12.20 (All-In), MP2 calls $80.51

River: ($341.22) K
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(3 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $341.22 | Rake: $3.50

Results:
SB had J
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, A
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(one pair, Aces).
MP1 had J
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, 10
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(straight, Ace high).
MP2 had 8
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, A
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(two pair, Aces and eights).
Outcome: MP1 won $91.28, MP2 won $246.44
 
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i was MP1.

ty for the chips everyone
 
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There's nothing wrong with minraising JT. It's not standard, but it's really fine if you know how to handle it postflop. And smaller raises is kind of common 30bb deep actually.

The only drooler here is SB. Stacking TP bad kicker 150bb deep is baaaad.

And yes, you'll find bad players at 100nl. And you'll find bad players a lot higher too. Bad players don't improve as you move up in stakes. They are just richer to begin with, and you have less of them and they play against better regs.
 
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I find no fault in the MP1 play. Min-raising with J10 is okay.

The SB's play is horrible, lol. I do not get what they are thinking, Stacking with top pair and medium kicker with that kind of texture on the board.???
 
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I find no fault in the MP1 play. Min-raising with J10 is okay.

I don't know where you read this or heard this from but you are incorrect.

The excerpt that I am posting is from a Golden Archive thread "https://www.cardschat.com/f49/stop-minraising-71694/" here on this forum posted by DM.


"As far as I'm concerned, there are only two reasonable circumstances in which minraises are appropriate. The first being in late tournament stages at a very weak table where a minraise is all it generally takes to steal the blinds. If players are as likely to fold to a minraise as a 3BB raise, why invest the extra BB? Secondly, it's reasonable as a kind of pseudo-slowplay with a huge hand that is very unlikely to be drawn out on, something like KK on a K73r flop. If you feel people are likely to hang around, then it's worth trying to leech a little more money from them and swell the pot early on.

But the above situations are rare - so stop minraising!"
 
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I don't know where you read this or heard this from but you are incorrect.

The excerpt that I am posting is from a Golden Archive thread "https://www.cardschat.com/f49/stop-minraising-71694/" here on this forum posted by DM.

This is old.

There are a few good regs who minraise a lot and win long term. It's an unusual approach to the game, but if you know how it affects the calling ranges of the other players, it can be profitable.

Also, most shortstackers open-raise to 2 or 2.5bb instead of a 3 to 4bb like normal players do. The primary reason is that they don't need to deny implied odds that much since they already do so with they small stack. Meanwhile, they get a cheaper price on their steals and are less vulnerable to resteals all-in which is a common counter-shortstacking strategy.
 
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There are a few good regs who minraise a lot and win long term. It's an unusual approach to the game, but if you know how it affects the calling ranges of the other players, it can be profitable.

Yes, but you are referring to a very rare circumstance. The majority of players can't or won't be successful (in the long run) playing like this.

MP1 got lucky in this circumstance w/ that many callers seeing a flop.
 
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Honestly I min-raise a decent amount when playing cash from CO, BTN and SB when in position to steal (6-max usually). Especially if these guys are folding to a good amount of steals or if they're loose pf, and weak post-flop, don't adjust, etc. No need to raise it up any higher if a min-raise does the job.

Not really sure why I started doing it, but it seems to work just as well and I don't think it has to work as often when compared to betting out more than 2BB's in an attempt to steal the blinds.

Couple that with the fact that I have position and a decent stack size compared to what's in the pot, it's seems to make it easier to take it down on the flop, especially against bad players.... this is all my opinion and I have no hard evidence (at least right now) that it's any better, but it works for me.
 
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