$100 NLHE Full Ring: AA 3Bet Pot

Jurn8

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 40/17/2.5

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I think my flop bet sizing is too small but this board smashes his range
FCB is 24 though so I should be betting bigger, im looking to basically bet/fold down I think but turn sizing ?

Cake Poker, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
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MP2: $106.30 (106.3 bb)
MP3: $79.35 (79.4 bb)
CO: $178.67 (178.7 bb)
BTN: $96.08 (96.1 bb)
Hero (SB): $124 (124 bb)
BB: $107 (107 bb)
UTG+1: $61.92 (61.9 bb)
UTG+2: $98.50 (98.5 bb)
MP1: $100.51 (100.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
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A
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2 folds, MP1 raises to $3, 4 folds, Hero raises to $12, BB folds, MP1 calls $9

Flop: ($25) J
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Q
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T
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(2 players)
Hero bets $16, MP1 calls $16

Turn: ($57) 8
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(2 players)
Hero ~?
 
c9h13no3

c9h13no3

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This sucks.

1) I don't think folding is an option. He's too floaty and too poor a player, plus we have outs whenever we're behind (K's give us the nuts, A's and a paired board let us beat two pair). So given his wide range this is just about how best to get the money in.

2) I think I shove. Lots of his range is KQ/AJ type stuff that we can't afford to let check back. But check/calling is okay too. Floaters with high AF's are usually good for a turn bluff, especially when the turn is scary. To tell you the truth, I bet it doesnt matter much which one you do.
 
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Terrible flop and turn. Got to fold here, can't risk too much more money. You are losing a bit though, that's sick.
 
acky100

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this isn't as scary as i first thought, yeah it looks horrible but really we only have like a pot and a bit size bet left, i just shove i think, i can think of worse hands that would call so thats my reasoning!

EDIT: IT might be scarier than i thought now.

AT,AJ,AQ,KQ all gonna be in his range, the only problem is we hold two aces, so there are only 6 combo's each of AT, AJ , AQ.. and 12 combo's of KQ so 30 combo's we beat.

TJ, JQ , QT , 9 combo's of each of these 2 pairs that beat us. 8 combo's of AK that crush us. add these up and theres 35 combo's that beat us.

So this is just rough combo's off the top of my head whilst im grinding, im sure ive missed hands out obviously but it's not as great as i first thought. I still think shoving could be okay, check calling could be quite good too as i dont think he'll bluff this board texture on the river.
 
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This is a very easy shove. I make the flop bet bigger so I'm not overbetting the turn. I want the money in on two streets so a 4straight doesn't come down and scare him off.
Not even that scared of the board. This guy will be calling down with just about every XdXd hand out there 9x/Kx/AQ/AJ/AT. If he has us beat consider yourself coolered. Folding here would be appauling.


27combos of twopair, 9combos of set, 32 combos of straight.
vs
20+ flush draws
AQ/KQ/AJ/Q9/J9/T9/KT/KJ = 84 pair combos
 
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This is a very easy shove. I make the flop bet bigger so I'm not overbetting the turn. I want the money in on two streets so a 4straight doesn't come down and scare him off.
Not even that scared of the board. This guy will be calling down with just about every XdXd hand out there 9x/Kx/AQ/AJ/AT. If he has us beat consider yourself coolered. Folding here would be appauling.


27combos of twopair, 9combos of set, 32 combos of straight.
vs
20+ flush draws
AQ/KQ/AJ/Q9/J9/T9/KT/KJ = 84 pair combos

you realise these beat us yeah?
 
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Oh yeah i forgot to add the 9 combo's of sets that beat us.

And i forgot KT, KJ and maybe a couple of other hands we beat.

I think in game i'm always near potting these kind of flops with my big hands with the same intention as deco, shoving the turn. We're obviously gonna lose a lot of these though but i do think there value in it vs a 40/17.
 
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i think we have to bet again yeah because of the pair + draws or pairs that hes going to call like KQ,AJ,KJ KT etc but its just what size, i dont think he calls a shove with those?
 
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Whoops didn't notice the 4 straight. I really need to slow down when reading these hands. Had it in my head that there's a number between 9 and 8 :p

I guess there's 104 bad combos and ~68 good combos. I gotta go but we'll want to work out how many of those good combos need to shove for us to be forced to call and hence whether a shove is preferable to a call (if flush draws call it always will be). I think it would be around 55 which is a tough ask.
 
c9h13no3

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Someone just run a sim, jeez. But if its 55/104, then that should give us the ~2:1 we need to get it in.
 
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