$100 NLHE Full Ring: 4 bet line check

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$100 NL HE Full Ring: 4 bet line check

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 23/23/0.7

Rush poker. Villain seems to be a 3bet monkey (14% over 69 hands) and we're BTN vs BB, so his 3bet is most likely light.

Line check?

full tilt poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG+2: $142.30
MP1: $137.95
MP2: $78.10
CO: $245.85
Hero (BTN): $130.50
SB: $69.50
BB: $148.20
UTG: $78.10
UTG+1: $118.65

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with 9 :spade: A :heart:
6 folds, Hero raises to $3, 1 fold, BB raises to $9.50, Hero raises to $24, BB calls $14.50

Flop: ($48.50) 3 :diamond: T :club: 4 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($48.50) A :club: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($48.50) 9 :diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB requests TIME, BB calls $20
 
F Paulsson

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I'm leaning towards a flop bet. You're deep enough that you won't be committed if he shoves on you, and while he certainly won't fold JJ, I think your main target for bluffing here should be AJ, AQ and AK. I'm not sure what he'd do with AK, of course. Some people call with those hands. Then again, your basic approach might as well be "I bluff, and if he calls or raises, I'm done with the hand." It takes some serious cojones to pull a bluffraise when you're 130bb deep. He might go ahead and pop you with a flushdraw, but the majority of the flushdraws he can have beat you anyway, so no foul there.

As played, I like checking behind on the turn. I think big aces constitute a large portion of his range, and the rest of it is dead scared of the ace that just came off, so unless you somehow manage to induce a bluffshove from KQ by betting the scarecard, I think checking is just fine. You're not primarily checking behind to induce a river bluff, though, which I think is important to keep in mind. I don't expect you to be ahead 50% of the time if he bets the river (although you'll probably have odds to call).

Once he checks the river again, his range doesn't change much except discounting AK quite a bit since I'd expect him to be more likely than not to bet that on the river once you check behind on the turn. The river bet-sizing is a tough decision. You can bet small and try to get some value out of JJ or JT (if that's ever in his range) hoping to catch a bluff, or you can bet big to make him make a hero call. Or you can bet small hoping to induce a bluff-raise.

All things considered, I like a smallish bet.
 
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On the flop I assume we're behind 100% of villain's range. He either has Ax with x>9 or a pocket pair when he flats our 4bet, does he not? Do we really have enough pure fold equity for a cbet to work?
 
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On the flop I assume we're behind 100% of villain's range. He either has Ax with x>9 or a pocket pair when he flats our 4bet, does he not? Do we really have enough pure fold equity for a cbet to work?

Barring a very unlikely KQs or KJs that made some kind of a bizarre call preflop, (which we've both seen recently but I'd still consider that unlikely) - yeah, our bet is a pure bluff. Thing is, our bet passes the commitment treshold, so he'd need to either decide to go with it or fold. I think you can get some relatively big folds out of him here, including occasionally stuff like 88 and definitely hands like AJ/AQ and hopefully AK. If we half-pot it, he only needs to fold a third of the time and I'd be inclined to think that he does that.

(We shouldn't forget the risk that he's slowplaying a big hand preflop, btw. KK and AA will flat this some of the time.)

It's close, though. I say "leaning towards" rather than "you gotta bet this flop." :)
 
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I agree with FP. This flop needs to be bet.
 
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I like your line.. especially against a villain with his stats.. your ace blocks a decent number of combinations that he can have.. I wouldnt fire flop or turn either. So all in all i like the way you played the hand on every street.. Only thing i was thinking about was overbetting river.. The only decision imo is how to get max value on the river. Overbetting would be an option.
 
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I think this hand was played perfectly.

But hey, what do I know.

Nothing.
 
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i too really like the way this hand was played
 
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