$100 NLHE Full Ring: 4 bet sizing OOP

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$100 NL HE Full Ring: 4 bet sizing OOP

Hand Information
pokerstars No Limit, 1 BB (9 handed).
Hand History converter courtesy of pokerhandreplays.com

Table Information
Seat: 1 Player 1 ($100) Dealer
Seat: 2 Player 2 ($39) Small Blind
Seat: 3 Player 3 ($111.8) Big Blind
Seat: 4 Player 4 ($40)
Seat: 5 Player 5 ($32.05)
Seat: 6 Player 6 ($121.05)
Seat: 7 Player 7 ($160.6)
Seat: 8 Hero ($110.05)
Seat: 9 Player 9 ($101.4)
Dealt to Hero
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Preflop (Pot:1.5)
Player 5 FOLD
Player 6 FOLD
Player 7 FOLD
Hero RAISE $3
Player 9 RAISE $12
Player 1 FOLD
Player 2 FOLD
Player 3 FOLD
Hero


Opponent is a 15/12 over just a few orbits. Previous hand I iso-raised a fish and flopped a set but didn't get much value.

His 3 bet size is on the largish side (4x) which may be normal for him, or maybe it makes it shifts his range more toward AK/JJ. Flatting is possible, but against someone I don't know well I'd rather avoid a flop OOP.

His largish 3 bet makes 4 betting more awkward, but maybe worrying about 4 bet sizing with full but not deep stacks is a waste of time?




 
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Flat calling isn't a bad move here. At least on the flop you could but a big bet in if there is no Ace on the flop. I prefer a reraise preflop though.
 
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Depending on your 4 Bet range (and to an equal extent your PERCEIVED 4 bet range) I'd either 4 Bet it or Flat. If my 4 bet range is {AA,KK} or even {AA,KK,QQ AK}, I'd rather have no 4 bet range and always flat 3 bets if I continue. If we have occasional 87s and other 4 bet bluffs in our range, I certainly prefer 4 betting. If we do four bet it doesn't have to be too big. I'd probably 3x it at the most ($36) which put $72 in the pot with $64 effective stacks

If not I prefer flatting and C/Ring most flops against 1) bad villains and 2) villains that have me perceived as aggressive and CCing against 1)good opponents or 2)those who see me as cautious. This (c-c vs c-r) pretty much depends on how I view villain thinks I'd play a hand like 99 if the board comes 873 (flat or raise?) If he expects me to flat then I flat KK as well to mask it, if he expects me to raise I raise KK. If he's bad he's never folding TT-QQ anyway so it doesn't matter. Obvious the wetter the board the more like I am to raise regardless since drawing hands are now in our range as well so overpairs probably aren't folding regardless
 
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~$27. Big enough to get value/not give immediate odds, small enough to make him think you can fold if he shoves AQ/AJs or whatever.

grats on moving to 100nl NL, good to hear! I remember not that long ago commenting on your 10nl posts :)
 
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~$27. Big enough to get value/not give immediate odds, small enough to make him think you can fold if he shoves AQ/AJs or whatever.

grats on moving to 100nl NL, good to hear! I remember not that long ago commenting on your 10nl posts :)

Sounds good Chuck. I ended up using $31 which seemed a tad oversized given the effective stack sizes.


And, I dunno that's it's any kind of permanent move; I'm just donking around a bit to see what it's like. So far the regs haven't scared me off and the fish are pretty easy to identify by comparison.
 
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