$100 NLHE 6-max: QQ on the BB, there's a raise, a flat and a 3bet... fold or get em in?

$100 NL HE 6-max: QQ on the BB, there's a raise, a flat and a 3bet... fold or get em in?

Had 150 hands on the button, he was playing around 13/11/6 with a 7% 3bet. CO was loose and had limp called 75o a few hands ago, so he has some sort of trash here 100% of the time. Only had 20 hands on the origianl raiser, was playing 21/17 so far...

Do you fold, 4bet and call anyone's push or 4b and fold to push only from MP?


Stacks:
* BTN with $100.00
* SB with $100.00
* BB with $101.50
* UTG with $105.00
* MP with $111.60
* CO with $90.30




Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: pokerstars
* * Dealt to BB:Q♣ Q♦
* * Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP raises $2 to $3
* * CO calls [$3]
* * BTN raises $7 to $10
* * 1 players fold.
* * Hero raises $19 to $29



EDIT: JESUS IT HAPPENED AGAIN. Please ignore this thread guys, comment on the other one. kthnx

$100 NL HE 6-max: QQ on the BB, there's a raise, a flat and a 3bet... fold or get em in?

Had 20 hands on MP, was playing 21/17 so far. Flatter was seen limp/calling 75o a few hands before and was loose passive over a small sample. Had 150 hands on the button, he was 13/11/6 with a 7% 3bet. What's your plan?

Stacks:
* BTN with $100.00
* SB with $100.00
* BB with $101.50
* UTG with $105.00
* MP with $111.60
* CO with $90.30




Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: Pokerstars
* * Dealt to BB:Q♣ Q♦
* * Sklansky group 1
Preflop:
* * 1 players fold.
* * MP raises $2 to $3
* * CO calls [$3]
* * BTN raises $7 to $10
* * 1 players fold.

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I think you have to 3 bet here if only to narrow the field. The button is most likely well aware or CO's range, namely anything, which opens up his own range quite a bit. I'm sure he's expecting to go HU. Your 4 bet complicates matters. He's GOT to put you on a high pair. I don't think he'd shove with anything less than KK which pretty much nails down our post flop actions. If he flats, you're probably ahead. I'd play any flopped Ace or King very cautiously. Don't worry about the lagtard.

lol double posts...I guess we're replying to this one then.

I think we have to get it in here given his 3bet is kinda high and that it's a perfect squeeze spot, so his range could be even wider.

As for size I prefer jamming instead of raising small. Putting in that tiny, cold 4bet makes our range look more like KK+, and that's not what we want. We want to induce a call from TT-JJ, AQs and AK, and by jamming it looks like we can definitely have some 99 hand that doesn't know what it's doing, or AK that just wants to shove and get it done with.

Basically shoving looks weaker and gets called lighter, and 4betting small shuts out most of his range imo, which we don't want.

i'd call this down, then if turn comes all low cards, put out a big bet to see where you're at, and fold if the ace or king comes

On these stakes I would fold.. even if only low cards hit the board it could be more trouble than when an A or K hits the board. Preflop you will atleast put someone on JJ+ so if you have an overpair and someone has Kings or Aces you can fold easier than when an A or K hits the board

Don't forget ImolAyrton, there are more ways to make AK (a lot more ways) then there are to make AA or KK. Based on that I'd be calling as Coramoor said. You don't want to fold, but all ins not a great move either I don't think.

Lets say you call and its 3 low cards so you go with it and get stacked... Makes no difference pre flop whether you call or go all in.. But you do get the chance to fold post flop if you just call...

Alternatively you could try the raise but it looks like he won't be giving it up...

I'd most likely call and pray for a queen, then when an A or K comes you know you're behind 100%. How do you know? Well, AK would have outdrawn you, and if the A or K that comes didn't hit him, it's VERY likely he has the pocket pair of the card that didn't come if you see what I mean

ImolAyrton , if u are not to do this at that stake , you shouldnt be playing that either.. If Aborges plays at this stake he probably got the bankroll to do it also.
My thought on the hand is although similar to those above me , call and if thats enough to see 3 community cards play it after what they do.
Could even maybe go for another raise PF.

Note : 50th post yey !

Even though button is tag he does seem to 3bet some(sample to small obviously but still something to get from it) .Squeezing IP vs a fish back caller also widens the range of most people and you are well ahead of both ranges. Combine with the fact that playing a 3way(maybe 4) 3bet (at least) pot OOP with QQ isnt an ideal situation, I just raise here and call a shove. If we were deeper it may change things but 100 deep I just raise to get it in, certainly not overly excited about it though.

widowmaker89 said:

Even though button is tag he does seem to 3bet some(sample to small obviously but still something to get from it) .Squeezing IP vs a fish back caller also widens the range of most people and you are well ahead of both ranges. Combine with the fact that playing a 3way(maybe 4) 3bet (at least) pot OOP with QQ isnt an ideal situation, I just raise here and call a shove. If we were deeper it may change things but 100 deep I just raise to get it in, certainly not overly excited about it though.

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Hands up, who's looking forward to seeing a $40, 4 way flop with QQ oop........anybody?

Simple

i'd cal this down, then if turn comes all low cards, put out a big bet to see where you're at, and fold if the ace or king comes

You have a hand, you'll be out of postion. Raise to take it down now or take a weak call from the button. Surely your looking for action six handed. I'm shoving either way by any re-raise hopefully by the button and not the early raiser. AA or KK or any on the flop, then thats just poker.

Playing QQ in the pocket shouldn't be that scary. Id rather be in your position rather than the button. I know my plan does he?

Would you rather everyone folded around to you?