£100 NLHE 6-max: Easy fold on river?

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I believe this was an easy fold, just wanted to know what others thought as I have had mixed responses.

Playing live so sorry no HH.

Dealt 33 in BB
UTG straddled to £2
Everyone calls so £12 in the pot
FLOP- 2 3 4 rainbow
SB checks,
I bet £7
CO and SB call
£33 IN THE POT
TURN - 6
SB leads out for £10
Me and CO both call
£63 IN THE POT
River was a J (no flush around)
SB bets £50
I fold, CO folds, SB takes the pot and shows 9 face up

Guy next to me said I should of called. He was repping 99 when he showed the 9 but I don't see how pocket 9's is possible as he lead out on the straight
card on the turn.
 
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If SB was going to lead out with 99 the best place for him to do it was on the flop. Unlikely that he does it on the turn. I fold there as well. Dipshit move for him to valuebet 99 on that river, if he is a dipshit then folding and waiting for a better spot is the best move I say.
 
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You do not ever fold bottom set to a 2/3 pot bet when the only thing on the board is a low straight draw. You need to win like 28% of the time to make the call profitable and you have everyone's range crushed. Two-pair and AA/KK always bet hoping to rep a bluff, or even as straight value bets if Villain isn't a nit (in that hand it's unlikely).

Sets are a ridiculously tiny portion of any range. Your basic assumption should not be that he has one.
 
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Lay it down. He probably had 9 5 straight. And he wants u to think he had pocket 9's by showing the nine. I am almost always folding river unless u think villain actually is capable of having something like 9's here. It's kind of read dependent. If he's solid fold for sure
 
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Lay it down. He probably had 9 5 straight. And he wants u to think he had pocket 9's by showing the nine. I am almost always folding river unless u think villain actually is capable of having something like 9's here.
If he can have a low 3-gapper he can have 9s.
 
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Lay it down. He probably had 9 5 straight. And he wants u to think he had pocket 9's by showing the nine. I am almost always folding river unless u think villain actually is capable of having something like 9's here. It's kind of read dependent. If he's solid fold for sure

Ditto

I play this the same but bet flop bigger.
 
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You do not ever fold bottom set to a 2/3 pot bet when the only thing on the board is a low straight draw. You need to win like 28% of the time to make the call profitable and you have everyone's range crushed. Two-pair and AA/KK always bet hoping to rep a bluff, or even as straight value bets if Villain isn't a nit (in that hand it's unlikely).

Sets are a ridiculously tiny portion of any range. Your basic assumption should not be that he has one.

To be fair I wasn't worried about set over set, I'd of got it in on flop if possible and if its a cooler its a cooler.

The fact he leads out on the turn which puts 4 to a straight on board concerns me as it completes the obvious draw. I think this discounts him playing 99 conservatively so no way will he lead out on a straight card with that holding.

The rivers irrelevant and he bets nearly the pot I'm folding as I'm still daed to a straight.

And I would say 9-5 is easily in his range being as he only has to call 1.50 into
the pot to see a flop. I would believe at that table for that pot a lot of guys would call with ATC on SB. But although I can't discount it completely I think 99 would raise pre flop so is less likely to be his holding.

Hated folding it though, was actually shaking after he showed the 9 face up lol!

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Lay it down. He probably had 9 5 straight. And he wants u to think he had pocket 9's by showing the nine. I am almost always folding river unless u think villain actually is capable of having something like 9's here. It's kind of read dependent. If he's solid fold for sure

Exactly what I thought, he's not betting nearly the pot with 2 players to act behind with 99. And he never leads out with 99 on the 4 to a straight on the turn. I wanted the FH on the river but kinda glad it wasn't another 6 as the guy behind me had 3 6. That would of been messy lmao

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Im folding as well. Good job
 
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