$100 NLHE 6-max: AK in 3-bet pot

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UTG is an ok reg I guess. He seemed a little passive in small sample:
26/20/13% 3-bet and 37% AGG - 60 hands.

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NL Holdem $1(BB)
BTN ($99.55)
SB ($153.15)
BB ($30)
UTG ($284.21)
HERO ($118.3)
CO ($27)

Dealt to Hero A:club: K:heart:

UTG Raises To $3 (Rem. Stack: 281.21), HERO Raises To $9 (Rem. Stack: 109.3), CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Folds, BB Folds, UTG Calls $6 (Rem. Stack: 275.21)

Flop ($19.5) T:diamond: 6:club: T:heart:
UTG Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($19.5) T:diamond: 6:club: T:heart: A:diamond:
UTG Checks, HERO Bets $12 (Rem. Stack: 97.3), UTG Calls $12 (Rem. Stack: 263.21)

River ($43.5) T:diamond: 6:club: T:heart: A:diamond: 6:heart:
UTG Checks, HERO Bets $27.5 (Rem. Stack: 69.8), UTG Raises To $126 (Rem. Stack: 137.21), HERO Folds

UTG wins $194

Seems standard. I guess nice shove if it was a split pot shove. He checked the flop ubber quick.
 
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This may be me being dumb but how many TT/66/AT do 6 max players have in there utg open/ call 3 bet range.

Do you have your stats as well for context of how he perceives you?

It feels like a fold cause you just beat spass range and it's hard to see someone doing this with AQ type hand for such thin value.
It is a really good spot to do with AK though which I absolutely feel is the crux of his range
 
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Yeah, it's a great hand with AK to shove for split. That's what first came to my mind of course. I don't play a ton of 6-max at these stakes, but I was thinking mostly:
T9s, JTs, KdQd, TT, 66, AA, AK for the bulk of his range.

I was running 29/26/7% 3-bet 47% AGG.

I don't think people are light shoving w/ AQ at these stakes, or trying to push me off AK w/ AQ either. I can't really find enough bluffs in his range unless I'm over looking something. I could add some KdJd type hands, but not sure there's enough of those.
 
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hmmm doesnt make sense he wouldve bet or raised flop or turn with a ten.

is it possible villain does this with aq? or qq jj
 
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hmmm doesnt make sense he wouldve bet or raised flop or turn with a ten.

is it possible villain does this with aq? or qq jj

No, he wouldn't have always raised. And like I said about, I don't think he's doing it with AQ and probably at this stake not turning other pairs into bluffs often enough. I just played this hand this morning, and it's probably a good fold of course, but just one of those frustrating hands I guess. :)
 
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yeah its something ive put in my game to never call for a cop pot.

usually what happens to me is the 4 card straights out there and its obvious or looks like we both have it... but ofc other guy shoves the flush


hmm not sure where i read it but it was all about denying chop pots.. so i guess its progressed from that and they try one step further
 
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Yeah, as far as chops this is pretty common to try and push someone off of chops at 100nl+. I mean from villains perspective, I most likely don't have a T or 6 in my hand. Not that I wouldn't 3-bet either of those, but it's unlikely I'd play it like that AND 3-bet and UTG player. So if he has AK he's basically free rolling a large percent of the time if I fold.

He didn't strike me as the kind of player that would make this play, but you never know. I have a feeling he had quads or AA. I'll tomorrow and see what he had and post it.
 
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this happens a lot at micros

Interesting. Yeah, I've never seen it happen once when watching any of you guys play. The games are getting tougher though.
 
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Interesting. Yeah, I've never seen it happen once when watching any of you guys play. The games are getting tougher though.

I think not. Villains are not smart enough to be making this play (AK split) at the micros.
 
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Question John?

Why did you bet river? Do you think you got a bit too greedy with 1 street too much of value with this board texture?

Such a weird board, it's hard to get value I thought especially when a 10 could be in both your ranges since it went check check on the flop( generally cuz it's a great flop to cbet on)....

the call on the turn must be alarming? I don't know these boards always someone has it on average and u said passive and he's running good.
 
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My two cents: Feels like a bluff as it's hard to imagine him on a 6 and unlikely he'd check a 10 on turn and river as others have said. Also, it was very obvious u had an ace, so good spot for him to bluff. He polarized his range on the river so it comes down to how often u think he's bluffing there...

FWIW... No need to bet on the river there. You are searching for very thin value with a dbl paired board.
 
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Question John?

Why did you bet river? Do you think you got a bit too greedy with 1 street too much of value with this board texture?

Such a weird board, it's hard to get value I thought especially when a 10 could be in both your ranges since it went check check on the flop( generally cuz it's a great flop to cbet on)....

the call on the turn must be alarming? I don't know these boards always someone has it on average and u said passive and he's running good.

We can get value from worse Ax. Mostly AQ. There's a chance he'll call down with JJ-KK, small, yes, but higher than the chance he actually has TT here.

Tx isn't in villains range here often when he opens UTG then flats the MP 3 bet. If he's loose he may do it with JTs but other that that not much makes sense unless john is known for polarised 3 bets from MP.
 
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