$100 NLHE 6-max: 100nl Bluff Catcher on the river

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Hey,

I plan to post some more 100/200nl (hopefully some 400nl in the future) hands here for a bit of discussion and hopefully help me plug a few leaks along the way


This hand was on party so HUD stats arent as relevant as it marks hand by seat not by player, So they should be ignored really.


At the time this guy had been sat for around 40 hands and had relatively reg'y looking stats but no real information on him here. I think preflop is probably a little bit loose but there was a fish in the BB and the player directly to my left was 3b'ing an insane amount so didnt want to flat and get forced into folding this pre so elected for the 3b vs UTG as I expect he will open a little bit wider with fish in BB. That being said this isnt the worse candidate for a 3b would prefer it to be suited or something like J9s but if fish in BB calls and UTG folds we are in a pretty good spot


That being said I think flop is close between betting and checking, The reason for the bet is just to protect a little bit and check close to all turns, I could check flop and bet most turns but there are a lot of turns which are bad for us and allow him to barrel us off as his range at this point is still pretty wide


When the K peels off and he barrels I find it hard to believe he has an 8 too often here and I dont know whether or not he would value bet AK here (if he does peel it on the flop which he doesn't necessarily have to, or if he would indeed bet it here) Besides 88 I dont know how many 8s he could have so kinda want to find a call


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partypoker - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
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SB: $102.43 (VPIP: 21.78, PFR: 14.77, 3Bet Preflop: 6.58, Hands: 612)
BB: $100.00 (VPIP: 24.79, PFR: 17.80, 3Bet Preflop: 6.78, Hands: 490)
UTG: $171.78 (VPIP: 26.53, PFR: 20.66, 3Bet Preflop: 12.18, Hands: 444)
Hero (MP): $100.00
CO: $178.24 (VPIP: 32.70, PFR: 22.33, 3Bet Preflop: 9.84, Hands: 323)
BTN: $423.14 (VPIP: 26.29, PFR: 19.42, 3Bet Preflop: 9.25, Hands: 596)
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SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00
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Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has A:club: T:spade:
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UTG raises to $2.60, Hero raises to $6.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $3.90
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Flop: ($14.50, 2 players) T:heart: 6:club: 7:diamond:
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.25, UTG calls $5.25
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Turn: ($25.00, 2 players) 9:heart:
UTG checks, Hero checks
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River: ($25.00, 2 players) K:spade:
UTG bets $16.83, Hero ? :icon_boun
 
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Probably a fold on the river,ATo wouldn't be in my bluffing range vs utg tbh i prefer different combos in a polar range and it's a little loose for me to flat pre so id fold pre,i'm assuming it's not a value 3bet..As for the hud stats you can switch to session stats for each player on poker tracker and holdem manager.It's not as good as life time stats but certainly better than nothing.If you have it on lifetime stats though then yes it's useless as it just gives stats on the seats and not the players.If your using Hem 3 beta though they haven't updated it to use session stats yet so better off using hem 2 on party.
 
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Yeah like I mentioned would normally fold but fish in BB turned this into a 3b for me.
 
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Why are we 3-betting pre? This seems terrible to me...

If you have a fish in the BB, and no one will squeeze, then call so the fish comes along.


If you’re going to get squeezed, fold.

Stop bluffing at UTG raisers, their range is strong.

You could call the river, since it’s a good card for villain to bluff, and you induced one by being passive. But a fold is probably best.
 
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Why are we 3-betting pre? This seems terrible to me...

If you have a fish in the BB, and no one will squeeze, then call so the fish comes along.


If you’re going to get squeezed, fold.

Stop bluffing at UTG raisers, their range is strong.

You could call the river, since it’s a good card for villain to bluff, and you induced one by being passive. But a fold is probably best.


Guy squeezing was doing it close to 40% of the time, like I said we get folds from UTG and get to play for value vs BB. Yes UTG ranges are strong but our range couldnt be stronger 3b'ing UTG from UTG+1 and you get a lot of folds doing this
 
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Hey,

Thoughts?

partypoker - $1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
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SB: $102.43 (VPIP: 21.78, PFR: 14.77, 3Bet Preflop: 6.58, Hands: 612)
BB: $100.00 (VPIP: 24.79, PFR: 17.80, 3Bet Preflop: 6.78, Hands: 490)
UTG: $171.78 (VPIP: 26.53, PFR: 20.66, 3Bet Preflop: 12.18, Hands: 444)
Hero (MP): $100.00
CO: $178.24 (VPIP: 32.70, PFR: 22.33, 3Bet Preflop: 9.84, Hands: 323)
BTN: $423.14 (VPIP: 26.29, PFR: 19.42, 3Bet Preflop: 9.25, Hands: 596)
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SB posts SB $0.50, BB posts BB $1.00
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Pre Flop: (pot: $1.50) Hero has A T
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UTG raises to $2.60, Hero raises to $6.50, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $3.90
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Flop: ($14.50, 2 players) T 6 7
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.25, UTG calls $5.25
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Turn: ($25.00, 2 players) 9
UTG checks, Hero checks
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River: ($25.00, 2 players) K
UTG bets $16.83, Hero ? :icon_boun


i'm new-ish to poker but i don't understand two parts of this. why not value bet the turn? and why fold the river when the only card that beats you is a king, an oddly disguised overpair (who would be scared of that king) or well-played trips?
 
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