$10 PLO Full Ring: AAxx hand basic play?

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I'm fairly new to Omaha, but decided to play a bit the other day.

Is it proper to 3x + 1BB for every limper with AAxx?

Also is it correct to get it all-in preflop in almost all situations?

Here is the hand:

Preflop:
4 limpers hop in the pot
I raise to $0.70 with :ad4: :ac4: :7d4: :4s4:
3 fold, 1 call, a short stack with $2.72 shoves
Another person calls
I raise $11.83 for nearly all my chips (I have $1.55 left)
Both the other people fold

Was my raise size ridiculous or should I pretty much always be willing to get it in with AAxx preflop even if the others are likely to fold?
 
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I'm fairly new to Omaha, but decided to play a bit the other day.

Is it proper to 3x + 1BB for every limper with AAxx?

Also is it correct to get it all-in preflop in almost all situations?

Here is the hand:

Preflop:
4 limpers hop in the pot
I raise to $0.70 with :ad4: :ac4: :7d4: :4s4:
3 fold, 1 call, a short stack with $2.72 shoves
Another person calls
I raise $11.83 for nearly all my chips (I have $1.55 left)
Both the other people fold

Was my raise size ridiculous or should I pretty much always be willing to get it in with AAxx preflop even if the others are likely to fold?
I'm not a PLO expert but I'm pretty sure its a "street by street" game. Stacking off preflop with AA vs multiple opponents is just a recipe for disaster.
 
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Simply making a 3x raise is sufficient enough and i personally don't add 1bbfor every limper because i think it is unnecessary since plo more often than not is a post flop game. So we don't want to make the pot size very big pre flop.

That said if you are in a situation when you have AAxx hand and some one 3bet's you then getting it in with a 4bet is the right play - even more so if your opponents are likely to fold to a 4bet. So your raise was not ridiculous - it was simply the right play. :)
 
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4 bet especially if you can get at least 1/3 of your stack in the pot, which makes you both pot commited
 
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I'm not a PLO expert but I'm pretty sure its a "street by street" game. Stacking off preflop with AA vs multiple opponents is just a recipe for disaster.


You've been paying attention! :)
 
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AA is overvalued in omaha. Much better to have 4 connected cards which are suited. The amount of people I see who get aa and then think they can't lose is ridiculous. Much better to have 10 jqk double suited. I started to throw my AA cards away recently as I was just losing too much with them.
 
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Stacking off preflop with aces at these stakes is rarely going to be wrong.
 
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Okay, I would like to try to answer your question.

You played it correctly. Magnum Aces and Double Suited Aces are the strongest of aces and any AAXX is always the nuts - preflop.

Now, that being said, you asked if you should always bet the pot. Not necessarily. Reason being is a good PLO player will put you on Aces and can then sit back (especially if he has position on you) and simply cherry pick flops.

The hand I just read ... you have a single suited AAXX hand and limpers in front of you (meaning you have position on them) and you raised pot (like you should have) 3 folds you said i think u said a call and then the short stack shoved (which is a dream scenario for you...because now you can RR (which you did $11 ish I think you said) and any time you can get the majority of your stack in w/ AAXX you should)

Forget what the rest of hand was but ... what you don't want to do is have AAXX not suited all rainbow and your XX cards be shitty (like 39 or 72) and then 3 bet and have everyone call because the 3 bet was like .75 cents or something. Then you have a multi way pot with your having what we call BAD ACES (not even single suited and worthless side cards) ... and now in a multiway if u hit top set you are very strong but if not you don't really know how to play it sometimes and get caught up in a big pot or land at showdown with others with just a pair of aces (which rarely wins at showdown in a multi way)

I hope this helps a little and if not ...it helped me by commenting.

GL at the Tables :)



I'm fairly new to Omaha, but decided to play a bit the other day.

Is it proper to 3x + 1BB for every limper with AAxx?

Also is it correct to get it all-in preflop in almost all situations?

Here is the hand:

Preflop:
4 limpers hop in the pot
I raise to $0.70 with :ad4: :ac4: :7d4: :4s4:
3 fold, 1 call, a short stack with $2.72 shoves
Another person calls
I raise $11.83 for nearly all my chips (I have $1.55 left)
Both the other people fold

Was my raise size ridiculous or should I pretty much always be willing to get it in with AAxx preflop even if the others are likely to fold?
 
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yes also your raise size was in no way ridiculous if u take it down right then and there you are golden ...don't **** around in omaha and don't give your opponent a free card EVER!
 
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I'm no PLO expert myself but I watched a lot of jnandez on Twitch and he is a 500 zoom plo reg and always got in wth AAxx. It can't be wrong since it is still the nuts pre but they can still have better hands like AhAdKhKd. Either way it is close to a coin flip at worst.
 
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In PLO, I almost always want to be headsup if allin preflop with an AA XX hand. AA 7 4 single suited in PLO would be considered a somewhat weak hand and you'd never want to go mult-way with that, or similiar hands, allin preflop. Better to reraise hard to get it to HU or to take it down preflop.
 
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I'm not a PLO expert but I'm pretty sure its a "street by street" game. Stacking off preflop with AA vs multiple opponents is just a recipe for disaster.
I completely agree to recipe for disaster although if accompanied with suited connectors ship it !!!
 
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I may have to try to watch this jnandez on Twitch. Can you tell me more about when he streams, etc. ?




I'm no PLO expert myself but I watched a lot of jnandez on Twitch and he is a 500 zoom plo reg and always got in wth AAxx. It can't be wrong since it is still the nuts pre but they can still have better hands like AhAdKhKd. Either way it is close to a coin flip at worst.
 
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OP raised got folds and SB RR pot so hero RR max pot. He did right doing that because he got all or the majority of his stack in and therefore could not be exploited.


In PLO, I almost always want to be headsup if allin preflop with an AA XX hand. AA 7 4 single suited in PLO would be considered a somewhat weak hand and you'd never want to go mult-way with that, or similiar hands, allin preflop. Better to reraise hard to get it to HU or to take it down preflop.
 
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Hero had single suited Aces and ended up HU preflop. He did everything right





I completely agree to recipe for disaster although if accompanied with suited connectors ship it !!!
 
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How is it a recipe for disaster if you have the preflop almost nuts? Kind of confused here. You are getting your money in good almost always.
 
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