$10 PLO 6-max: Are you betting this river?

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I thought a check would give him a chance to bluff, but I suspected that he was drawing and would not call a bet. He has won a fair amount of showdowns. Am I undervaluing my hand?


Poker Stars - $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha (5 players)
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SB: $26.67
BB Hero: $24.98
UTG: $33.60
CO: $24.77
BTN: $42.46

Pre-flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB and dealt :js4: :ad4: :5c4: :ah4:
2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.30) :10c4: :4s4: :5s4: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.30) :10c4: :4s4: :5s4: :5d4: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.38, BTN calls $0.38, SB folds

River: ($1.06) :10c4: :4s4: :5s4: :5d4: :2c4: (2 players)
Hero...
 
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Ughh I am clueless with PLO (maybe I shouldn't even reply) but why are you not raising pre? I know your head isn't all that good but it's gotta be ahead of their continuing range.

River is a very clear bet/fold vs most players I assume (again, I suck at plo)

/suckaments
 
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I don't like betting pf because I find it difficult to play those kind of hands. AAxx don't normally improve and it can be hard to know where your' at, so I wanted to keep the pot small. Maybe better players will be betting, I'm not good at PLO either lol
 
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preflop is fine, you can vbet river for like 1/2 pot to get value from random non-boat 5x's and to allow him to make a mistake and call with KKxx or whatever, i feel like he never bluffs when checked to anyways, cause people don't do that in PLO
 
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I would raise PF to narrow field to HU and c-bet out on the relatively dry flop and try to take it there. If I met resistance would fold. Naked aces are dicey, here I would play them fast then drop them if I didn't get any help. Catching mid set on the turn is no good... Really I wouldnt have played it this way, the brick on the river opens chance of a bluff/value bet (1/2 pot is good as vanq says) but if he raises you are finished.
 
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I would raise PF to narrow field and c-bet out on the flop. If I net resistance would fold. Naked aces are dicey, here I would play them fast then drop them if I didn't get any help. Catching mid set on the turn is no good... Really I wouldnt have played it this way, the brick on the river opens chance of a bluff bet but if he raises you are finished.

i'm not sure if this isn't making sense to me because it doesn't make sense or because i'm hung over, but i'll just point out that you're never going to narrow the field by raising preflop
 
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B/F $0.75 on the river IMO.
 
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i'm not sure if this isn't making sense to me because it doesn't make sense or because i'm hung over, but i'll just point out that you're never going to narrow the field by raising preflop

Well yes u are, depending... A pot raise here would fold one limper I think... followed by a 3/4 c bet and u either win or lose the hand with naked starters... one way to play it IMHO.
 
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Well yes u are, depending... A pot raise here would fold one limper I think... followed by a 3/4 c bet and u either win or lose the hand with naked starters... one way to play it IMHO.

Are you saying you bet pf then cbet and if that doesn't win the hand give up with AA rag kind of hands? Could you not do that with any trash hand?
 
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Are you saying you bet pf then cbet and if that doesn't win the hand give up with AA rag kind of hands? Could you not do that with any trash hand?

Yes but not quite the same... If you catch top set with yr As on a dry flop you have good equity to play the hand through. Real trash hands usually flop trouble when they connect or catch a draw...
 
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Makwa, your disregard for position, player tendencies and exploitability worry me in this hand.


You can do whatever you want preflop, does not really matter, it is correct both ways and justifiable both ways. I lean towards the call myself. I am also bet/folding this river against most persons. We cannot check here, he has not shown aggression at all and it would be unwise to do so on the river.
 
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Makwa, your disregard for position, player tendencies and exploitability worry me in this hand.


You can do whatever you want preflop, does not really matter, it is correct both ways and justifiable both ways. I lean towards the call myself. I am also bet/folding this river against most persons. We cannot check here, he has not shown aggression at all and it would be unwise to do so on the river.

Well we dont know tendencies, and position is fair at BB, SB limped and Button may just be playing position. Thats why I suggested the line I did; either may fold to a bit of agro.

I agree re PF, I like the raise but call OK too, seems to be the majority opinion, and again you are with most with the bet/fold river.

Sorry to worry u Mayo. :eek:
 
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It is just that we are playing to predictable when we take the line you suggested...
 
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