$10 PLO 6-max: Playing the full straight wrap.

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Okay, here a hand that I justed played.
I have an awesome full straight wrap on the flop with playing in late position.
Play along with me. Please comment

BB$6.79 (67.9 bb)
UTG$11.32 (113.2 bb)
MP Hero$5.27 (52.7 bb)
CO$11.37 (113.7 bb)
BTN$10 (100 bb)
SB$5.89 (58.9 bb)



Preflop: Hero is MP with 8
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UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.40) 5
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(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.80, SB folds, BB calls $1.80

Turn: ($6) T
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BB bets $4.19, Hero ?
 
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such a pretty flop for such an ugly hand...

I agree put your money in ... plenty of nut outs left in the deck.
 
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As played (with 50 bb's) its a call. If you had a full stack, it'd still be a call. Shoving here is bad.
 
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Okay , I was told to fold pre...mistake in my part.....but what if there was 1 caller do I flat call.....if there was two callers do I flat call with this hand? Do I play this hand at all?
I only had enough to call....but it I villian and hero had deeper stacks do I shove? why call vs shove?
 
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As played (with 50 bb's) its a call. If you had a full stack, it'd still be a call. Shoving here is bad.

Started with 52.7 BB -> put in 8 BB pre -> put in 18 BB on the flop that leaves him with 26.7 BB ($2.67) if I'm reading this right. Calling the turn puts him allin... call in essence is a shove.

Pot odds are the 6 bucks already in there plus $2.67 from the big blind ... Put in the $2.67 to win $8.67. Better than 3 to 1.
 
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Genleemb you are right.
Okay before I put the spoiler if the stacks were deeper would a shove be the right move?
 
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Preflop: Hero is MP with 8
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UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, SB calls $0.15, BB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.40) 5
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(3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.80, SB folds, BB calls $1.80

Turn: ($6) T
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BB bets $4.19, Hero calls $2.67 and is all-in

River: ($11.34) T
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(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $11.34 pot ($0.55 rake)
Final Board: 5
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6
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T
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T
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BB showed 6
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Q
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and won $10.79 ($5.52 net)
Hero showed 8
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and lost (-$5.27 net)

What I dont understand is why the donkbet at the turn by the villian with just a pair of 6's and no straight/flush draws ..........looks like he could see my hole cards.
 
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I have 20 wrap outs on a rainbow board at the flop.....any 2(four),3(three),4(three),7(three),8(three),9(four) but 6 are non nut outs ( the 7 or 8 card) leaving me with 14 nut outs....still very exciting. Im pretty much even money if against AAxx with that rainbow flop
 
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Yep shove here is correct.

Deeper stacks I'd say just call.

Guy is a donk and didn't deserve to win that one lol but hey what can ya do
 
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been playing like 20 hours of omaha with some sleep inbetween, my brain is fried and then going to playing an holdem game and it felt strange .......cause I felt like I still need to use both my hole card to complete my hand.
I forgot I could still use one card to complete a flush or straight on a 4 flush/straight board
Also double paired board completes a FH easier in holdem
 
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Snap shove turn and also fold pre in future.
 
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As played (with 50 bb's) its a call. If you had a full stack, it'd still be a call. Shoving here is bad.


I agree with c9, not sure what we gain by shoving this turn? If we could have shoved the flop I'd like that more.. at this point we (almost always) either make the nuts or have 8 high after the river and villain will almost certainly put us in either way...especially at these stakes. I don't expect villain to fold here hardly ever given how hand has gone and stack sizes (and the limit we are playing at) if we shove.


also fold that pre!
 
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