$10 PL O 6-max: 6way pot, slow played top set on flop

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Couldn't convert the hand, sorry about that, cleaned it up manually as best I could.

I'm new to the table. 4way limped pots are common at these tables (UB, $10 PLO) - 3way raised pots are also very common. 6way raised pots aren't as common, but not unheard of.

I flatted behind player D on the flop intending to see what everyone else did. At these tables, I'm fully expecting undersets as well as big draws to raise player D's likely overpair, and I got what I expected, though I didn't expect 2 callers behind the raise. The idea was to get all in on the flop, I'm no worse than a coinflip to any hand HU I think, and I got my wish.

I'm pretty sure I should have potted behind player D, my logic above is wrong, correct? Please expand?

Stage #1765682789: Omaha Pot Limit $0.10 - 2009-11-26 09:10:27 (ET)
Table: ITALY DR (real money) Seat #6 is the dealer

Seat 6 - BTN ($11.80 in chips)
Seat 1 - SB ($3.44 in chips)
Seat 2 - BB ($19.05 in chips)
Seat 3 - UTG ($6.03 in chips)
Seat 4 - HERO ($10 in chips)
Seat 5 - CO ($14.86 in chips)
B - Posts small blind $0.05
C - Posts big blind $0.10

*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Qh 5d Qs 5s]
UTG - Raises $0.35 to $0.35
HERO - Calls $0.35
CO - Calls $0.35
BTN - Calls $0.35
SB - Calls $0.30
BB - Calls $0.25

POT - $2.10

*** FLOP *** [9c Qc 2s]
SB - Checks
BB - Checks
UTG - Bets $0.30
HERO - Calls $0.30
CO - Folds
BTN - Raises $3.30 to $3.30
SB - Folds
BB - Calls $3.30
UTG - Calls $3
HERO - All-In(Raise) $9.35 to $9.65
 
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UTG (who is your original preflop raiser) seems like he/she has an overpair and possibly the flush draw. BTN could be a lower set or maybe a combo draw like a wrap with smaller flush draw and BB doesn't make sense. Maybe BB is a straight draw and is a low stakes donk.

Anyhow, you know there are a lot of diamonds taken away from the flush draw but you have to also dodge straight cards. I am shipping this in here as flatting would be horrible because almost any card that doesn't pair the board is a scare card.
 
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I actually like what happened here. Your reraise here is the right move. You obviously have at least one flush chaser here. Hopefully you have two. Lessens the chance of them completing. You also have a redraw. It's what I would have done here.
 
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Probarbly a J10 draw, overpair, lower set, and flush draw any of those combos buy by reraising we have trapped ALOT of money imo even if we lose it was +even
 
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I may not have been clear in my op - I'm pretty happy w the way this worked out as bbb says, as pointed out there are prob two fd's and who knows what else (fwiw - one player did have a monster draw, the other two should've folded), and was delighted to shove - but my question is about my original flat behind UTG's $0.30 bet, the idea was to provoke a raise from someone behind me cuz I got greedy and didn't want to just take a $2.40 pot, but I think that's probably a bad idea?
 
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This where it gets tricky with PLO. I'm not a math person so I'll deal in general terms. If you had raised, from your table description, you would have gotten callers no matter what. However you would have signaled your hand to the table. I don't believe you would have gotten them to fold. Set vs flush draw not too good with one player. Set vs 2 or more flush draws, bring it on. By you flatting you are allowing flush draws, lower sets, 2 pairs to jump on the bandwagon. If someone has a monster draw then they will bet it hard.

You are playing for rolls more often than not in PLO. I don't know what type of player you are. This will also make a difference. In general, playing how you did was correct.
 
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Meh I dunno. I kinda prefer raising here. He bets .30 into 2.10 and it's a pretty drawy board, especially with so many people in there. I'm prolly just potting it and trying to get it in. You don't want people behind flatting and the turn being like... well any club or a K or something. I dunno, multi-way, drawy board I wanna get as much in as soon as possible. But I suck at PLO
 
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Meh I dunno. I kinda prefer raising here. He bets .30 into 2.10 and it's a pretty drawy board, especially with so many people in there. I'm prolly just potting it and trying to get it in. You don't want people behind flatting and the turn being like... well any club or a K or something. I dunno, multi-way, drawy board I wanna get as much in as soon as possible. But I suck at PLO

Generally potting it here can almost never be a bad decision, but with the OP's description of the table I do agree with the flat here and then when it does get raised, reraise and hope you hold.
 
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