$10 NLHE Full Ring: Typical Zoom position

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

BTN: $4.55
SB: $14.89
BB: $10.00
UTG: $5.15
UTG+1: $12.75
MP: $9.00
Hero (MP+1): $51.25
LP: $11.56
CO: $10.39

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has K:heart: K:spade:

UTG raises to $0.30, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to $14.89 and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero ?


This happens so much to me, I know never fold kings, but in zoom these types of back and forth plays when I got kings usually equals other kings (which I lose $2 to rake) or aces.

Snap call. \thread.

I call - but frankly - I do it because I feel like a loser if i don't.
The thing is I rather lose and know I played my cards - then feel I was intimidated and missed the opportunity - with premium hand. I will fold KK / QQ - but not in this type of betting...

BUT - i totally hate HATE KK - it is by far the hand that cost me the most. It seems to come in at critical times (and lose) in MTT's - or create a big loss like this is potentially. But I refuse to fold it under preflop pressure - be it as it may the outcome.

KK should not be losing you money. If you have PT or HEM do a search. If you don't, download the free trial and then do a search after 60 days. I think (and hope) you will be pleasantly surprised.

jordanbillie said:

KK should not be losing you money. If you have PT or HEM do a search. If you don't, download the free trial and then do a search after 60 days. I think (and hope) you will be pleasantly surprised.

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would you know how could i get a free trial version?
I would appreciate the help

I think you have to call because it can't/won't lose you money long term. Maybe you're being results orientated a bit and feel when you get kings in, it usually vs Kings or aces because this is not the case.

I've found people shove any pocket pairs, A,Q+ in zoom pokers so it's an easy call. Besides which, I think aces will 3bet smaller like maybe $4.00 not just shove it in which makes it even easier of a call.

yeah I don't think many people play AA like this, but you still have to call off since he has tons worse like all the time.

but yeah, keep playing zoom since its so much fun and the fish playing atc tighten up.. sounds profitable.

Zoom sucks. Play at a regular table and get reads.

ramdeebam said:

I think you have to call because it can't/won't lose you money long term. Maybe you're being results orientated a bit and feel when you get kings in, it usually vs Kings or aces because this is not the case.

I've found people shove any pocket pairs, A,Q+ in zoom pokers so it's an easy call. Besides which, I think aces will 3bet smaller like maybe $4.00 not just shove it in which makes it even easier of a call.

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I agree, maybe it is result orientated by folding. Just a spot I've been in a few days, more often than not it seems these villains who 4bet are usually holding pocket aces, not too measurable over a range but it occurs.

Campbell92 said:

yeah I don't think many people play AA like this, but you still have to call off since he has tons worse like all the time.

but yeah, keep playing zoom since its so much fun and the fish playing atc tighten up.. sounds profitable.

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Haha yeah I love zooms, the wins are usually high. Usually only get tilted when you lose a 3x BI stack.

jordanbillie said:

KK should not be losing you money. If you have PT or HEM do a search. If you don't, download the free trial and then do a search after 60 days. I think (and hope) you will be pleasantly surprised.

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Haha yeah I use PT3, KK is my 3rd profitable hand (AA then AKo, oddly enough AKs is barely break even). Most of the time I stack off to AK/QQ PF, sometimes it seems that as you call your thinking "show me the aces". Anyway I appreciate all the feedback .

lol at being 500bb deep. But yeah you gotta call here he could do this with QQ aswell as probably AKo and AKs. I doubt he does it with less than that though.