$10 NLHE Full Ring: Is my turn 3bet absurd?

No stats/reads worth mentioning (less than 20 hands on villain)


SB: $11.67
BB Hero: $12.65
UTG: $4.57
UTG+1: $9.85
MP: $11.08
MP+1: $7.85
CO: $11.71
BTN: $4.05

Pre-flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB and dealt
4 folds, CO raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65)
Hero bets $0.35, CO calls $0.35

Turn: ($1.35)
Hero bets $0.90, CO raises to $1.90, Hero raises to $11.10 (All-in), CO calls $9.16 (All-in)

River: ($23.51)

Final Pot: $23.51


*Should I be folding pre?
Also, should I have checked the turn after I complete my hand, or was leading out fine?

I like it, great board for shoving the turn.

I dont mind the call pre either, but i think its close.

I personally would have check raised that flop with such a monster draw but i dont mind the way you played the hand. As it turns out your opponent had a monster and may have tried get it on the flop if not definitely on the turn (if you had check-raised) and continued like i would have. If i had played the hand the way you did i would have re-raised the turn rather than shoving because it pushes out a lot of hands and a lot of players at 10NL FR are scared of shoves, although there is nothing wrong with a shove in this spot. The call pre is fine imo as long as you are comfortable getting away from the marginal spots that will follow from playing KTo oop

I fold pre vs a CO open from an unknown. It's not a terrible call by any means but personally I'd be looking at hands no weaker than KQ vs unknowns. Playing OOP is hard enough nevermind vs unknowns.

I play it the same postflop but make both bets larger.

I think c/r flop is optimal but fine as played

c/r flop all day, bigger on flop and turn.

if you want better advice, don't show the action after your all-in.

What baudib said but nh

You're only putting in an extra .15 so I think you could make a lot of arguments to make that call. I like to defend my BB with a lot of moderate hands. I do probably check the turn though make my first bet look like a c-bet and let him bet into me though.

pre's fine I wouldn't lead flop though

if we did c/r here on the flop with the draw. and he shoves. would we call? like is it +ev?

I think ATF is player dependent. Personally I'd rather build and hope for a 3bet from my opponent. Whether I'm c/r here or not, if he continues, on the turn I'm getting it in.

I posted this pretty much to see if my decision w/ shoving my stack on the turn was optimal, which seems like it is based on the responses. I agree with what baudib said too. Hopefully the answers haven't been clouded since I added the action after I was all-in. I'll try to remember not to include it next time.

I think you played the hand pre and on the flop. Check raising strong draws is often a good play, but calling is ok if you are sure they will pay off big bets. The all in does seem a bit out of line, but in this case I think he would have raised all in himself.

I always 3bet pre here if I choose to play this hand. c/r the flop as played. same thing on the turn.

I lead the flop because this flop isn't very c-bettable for our villain and absolutly loads of moderate hands we can fold out with enough pressure over 3streets can check back this flop (weak Ax + Qx) and force our great draw into playing a medium sized pot. Big draws should be looking to build huge pots so all but the best value folds and we stack our villain when we hit.