$10 NLHE Full Ring: TT in prefop 3bet

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BTN: 98.8 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 3)
Hero (SB): 117.4 BB
BB: 166 BB (VPIP: 25.40, PFR: 15.87, 3Bet Preflop: 5.26, Hands: 63)
UTG: 180 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: 113.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: 103.2 BB (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 19.44, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J:spade: T:spade:

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, UTG calls 6 BB

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 5:spade: 4:spade: 4:heart:
Hero bets 10 BB, UTG calls 10 BB

Turn: (39 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
Hero bets 22.4 BB, UTG raises to 44.8 BB, Hero ?
 
TimovieMan

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I'm not raising this preflop, and I'm check/calling the flop.

As played, this could still very well be TT+. Possibly AA with the As. I'm inclined to shove here.
There's not a lot of 55/44/22 in his range, and if we're up against a bigger flush, so be it.
 
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Yea im not 3 betting this from sb either. I do love to 3bet JTs when im IP btw. As played re raise allin turn, if he have a better flush, as Tim said, so be it..

I also would suggest to bet bit bigger on flop
 
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I'm not raising this preflop, and I'm check/calling the flop.
Poor choice of words.
I meant I'm check/calling the flop after just flatting preflop.

As played I'm c-betting as well. And like Draza says, slightly bigger. I probably make it 12-15bb.
 
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I like to 3bet on SB or BB that gives control on the hand. it hard to play without position and without control, the hand become hit or miss hand.
 
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I like to 3bet on SB or BB that gives control on the hand. it hard to play without position and without control, the hand become hit or miss hand.

Of course, i agree with you, against wider ranges of the opponents we need to be aggressive to compensate for being OOP, but that doesnt mean that we should randomly 3bet SB and BB, not taking anything else in the consideration, UTG is much tighter than any other position when played by thinking player of course, he will have a position against you and his c3b range is kinda ahead of your JTs hand and it is pretty much of the same flopabilty as JTs, so he often flop better draw or better pair and will have position on you, im not fan of could calling SB even at 100bb so my 3bet range is pretty merged at sb, meaning that my bluff range at sb is bottom half combos of the value range (i cant described that better without making a screenshot, gut i guess you get the point) now when you 3bet JTs from blinds clearly as bluff the only hope you have is that he will c3b you have to fold to 4bet cuz you were bluffing, dont think that c4b should even be discussed here at SB, you still are OOP and are pretty behind his c3b range+position, see now why its much better to cold call JTs at sb and play smaller pot OOP against his wider but still btroadway packed range that you still can be ahead of with your flopability instead of merging yourself with 3bet against his c3b range that is pretty flopable if he is thinking player, i would rather 3bet AT+
TT+ and fold to 4bet all but AK JJ which i would 5bet...
 
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