$10 NLHE Full Ring: TpTk + Royal Flush draw

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I know I played this hand badly.. I was hopin' to see that royal flush. What should I have done differently? Bet more on the flop and bet again on the turn? I thought I was trapping them.. until I saw the river.


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SB: $11.88
BB: $10
UTG Hero: $10
MP: $11.04
MP+1: $9.05 - Sitting Out
MP+2: $3.41
LP: $22.38
CO: $7.07
BTN: $13.92

Pre-flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG and dealt :kd4: :ad4:
Hero raises $0.30, 4 folds, BTN calls $0.30, BB folds

Flop: ($0.75) :qd4: :ac4: :10d4: (3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.35) :qd4: :ac4: :10d4: :2s4: (3 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($1.35) :qd4: :ac4: :10d4: :2s4: :ks4: (3 players)


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bet more flop

bet pot on turn.

now the river is hard...i bet harder on previous streets
 
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bet more flop

bet pot on turn.

now the river is hard...i bet harder on previous streets


Yeah, I figured betting more on flop and turn would probably be the biggest thing. Not sure if villain would have folded or not, though.
 
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B/F the river for $0.85 as played.

And bet the flop for like full pot. They either have a pair+draw and they're calling, or they're folding. There's really no inbetween so get full value.

Trapping on a wet board like this is HILARIOUS! There's already tons of hands that will call your bet and there's tons of ways to draw out on you. Why would you try to trap?
 
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bet more flop

bet pot on turn.

that would make the river so much easier

when iv'e been looking through your hands that you post, the common thing I see is just not betting enough to get the most value out of your hands
 
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Definitely bet more on flop....enough with the gay bets. I'm betting the turn against almost all villains...only extremely floating villains will I go into check/call mode.

As played on the river it's probably check/fold. There just aren't many flush draws villain can have given you hold the AdKd. Villain as JT, QJ, AJ all in his range. Hard to say whether AQ or AT are calling if you bet river, I'd lean towards no which is why I lean towards saying check/fold.
 
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Also C9 get into my threads foo!
 
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Villain had J9s.. was open ended on the flop, and rivered the straight.
 
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Definitely bet more on flop....enough with the gay bets. I'm betting the turn against almost all villains...only extremely floating villains will I go into check/call mode.

As played on the river it's probably check/fold. There just aren't many flush draws villain can have given you hold the AdKd. Villain as JT, QJ, AJ all in his range. Hard to say whether AQ or AT are calling if you bet river, I'd lean towards no which is why I lean towards saying check/fold.

I might be a station but no way way I'm check/folding river.I might check/call or make a little smaller bet fold like c9 said but I would be like.60
 
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considering the hand a bluff-catcher? now, how often they would bluff is a hard question, but they still may.
What air does villain get to the river with? Small flush draws and that's about it. In order for your opponent to bluff, they need to have something they can TURN INTO a bluff. Generally, people don't bluff with hands like KT on this board....

Check/calling is always worse than bet/folding here, because villain will call with two pair frequently, but almost never bet with two pair.
 
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You might br right I was going to say I would bluff this hand with atc.After reviewing the hand again pots so small on the river,it would be hard to do.Also there is not that many hands that call flop and bet river that wouldn't beat your hand.
I just might impulse call well because i'm a station:)
 
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Ya check/call is terrible. Us having the A and K of diamonds really limits air villain can have here combination wise...It's really just whether we think he calls with his two pair hands that influences if we should bet/fold or check/fold.

Looking at it though....

We have 8 combos of AJ, 12 combos of QJ, 12 combos of JT, and 6 combos JJ for a total of 38 straight combos. There are 6 combos AQ, and 6combos of AT for a total 12 combos. I'm pretty sure check/folding is better than bet/folding as even if villain calls with his two pair hands, the number of hands that beat us are far greater than the number we beat.
 
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We have 8 combos of AJ, 12 combos of QJ, 12 combos of JT, and 6 combos JJ for a total of 38 straight combos. There are 6 combos AQ, and 6combos of AT for a total 12 combos. I'm pretty sure check/folding is better than bet/folding as even if villain calls with his two pair hands, the number of hands that beat us are far greater than the number we beat.
Stop making sense! (Fine, check/fold, nit)
 
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