$10 NLHE Full Ring: TPGK, vbet river?

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Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 13/5/1

Not sure if I should have even raised the turn when my FD comes in, only hand I can think that I get value from is AJ though, otr when checked to should we go for some more value here or just check it back? Guy has just over pot left, after his smaller bet on the turn and then checking river it looks kinda weak to me.

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UTG+1: $10.40
Hero (MP1): $10.59
MP2: $8.63
CO: $6.44
BTN: $11.13
SB: $8.29
BB: $13.18
UTG: $6.37

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP1 with A :diamond: Q :diamond:
UTG raises to $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 1 fold, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds

Flop: ($1.35) A :spade: 9 :diamond: 6 :heart: (4 players)
UTG bets $0.50, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $0.50, CO folds

Turn: ($2.35) T :diamond: (2 players)
UTG bets $1, Hero calls $1

River: ($4.35) 8 :heart: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero?
 
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I kinda just wanna fold pre is he's really a 13/5. I doubt he has AJ here unless it's a really small sample. His sizing is really weird which makes me think he's an idiot but i dont see any reason to raise the turn against this guy, he could have KK or QQ or JJ i suppose? I probably bet like super small $1 or even less and hope he has one of them and calls because hes stupid, dont think theres that much value though and i'd probably of folded pre anyways.
 
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Agree with folding preflop. Check back the river and lose to AK imo.
 
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A 13/5 is going to be bad enough to pay us off with lower pairs. Yes, we're a dog preflop, but this player is terrible. Additionally they prolly dont adjust their range based on position.

Im calling pre, and raising the turn to $3.50. Check the river as played.
 
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Agreed with folding pre we're going to get ourselves in so many messes playing against an ultra tight range with AK/AA on A high flops and KK+ on Q high flops we're never going to be too happy. If we play this we're playing merely for it's valued as a suited ace + big implied odds and for that I would like less players behind me.

As played this stinks off scared JJ-KK/AJs to me. I'm happy to bet small like $1.50. If he check raises us with a set well done to him but I think that happens very rarely given his line. If he check/calls AK make a note that he's a huge value pussy and move on.
 
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and for that I would like less players behind me.
If he check/calls AK make a note that he's a huge value pussy and move on.

Thanks guys, i think before this I wouldnt have given a second thought to calling IP with AQs here, but your all right lol, his range is tight and contains too much that has us dominated on Qxx Axx flops.

Also, my position too makes it suck calling here, in fact when I get home tonight i'm going to do a filter for how often I get squeezed out of pots because if I flat AQs from MP, then i'm gonna take a guess at me flatting AJs from the CO or BTN, and thats purty bad.

He had AK, I bet half pot on the river and he c/c obv. When i looked at it though I thought about what calls on the river and all I beat really is AJ tbh, I have to rely on him playing KK like a tard to include that as well so it seemed pretty thin.

Deco, when you mean make a note, is that for calling vbets on rivers with TP? Doesnt seem too noteworthy as I might have took the same line with TPTK there, except for betting bigger otf and turn and also b/fing river.....hmmm maybe you mean that he wont b/f TP on rivers.

So vs this guy I can maybe call with more SC, PP, type hands, because hes gonna call vbets with TPTK, and im presuming overpairs too?
 
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Its a good note to have because he doesnt like obvious value. He checked the river and bet like a pussy throughout, when he bets rivers he aint doing it thinly, when he bets three barrels he aint doing it thinly, very polarised most likely. And because he's a 13/5 i'd say he's probably just super straight forward not gonna pay people off, probably not bluffing very often at all. I label 13/5 as a nit just because of how often he raises pre, i dont expect to get tons of money from these guys but i'm happy with one at my table.
 
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Thanks guys, i think before this I wouldnt have given a second thought to calling IP with AQs here,
You're IP against the twp people who have entered the pot in front of you. But with five still to act, and taking into account that if you call, they all have improved pot odds, there's a fairly decent probability you won't have position, at least not last to act.
 
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Deco, when you mean make a note, is that for calling vbets on rivers with TP?

Its a good note to have because he doesnt like obvious value. He checked the river and bet like a pussy throughout, when he bets rivers he aint doing it thinly, when he bets three barrels he aint doing it thinly, very polarised most likely. And because he's a 13/5 i'd say he's probably just super straight forward not gonna pay people off, probably not bluffing very often at all. I label 13/5 as a nit just because of how often he raises pre, i dont expect to get tons of money from these guys but i'm happy with one at my table.

What acky said. In this players case I'm going to be making some huge folds I wouldn't even consider vs even the worst of nits. If he plays AK this scared imagine the sort of hands he'd need to bet pot or even raise. Once we have this note this guys going to need to cooler us really bad to make money and even some coolers can potentially be avoided.
 
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Thanks guys, i think before this I wouldnt have given a second thought to calling IP with AQs here, but your all right lol, his range is tight and contains too much that has us dominated on Qxx Axx flops.

yeah, Acky taught me that too.

saved me a fair bit of money since :)
 
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I would check back the river too. Your probably not gonna get called by anything you can beat.
 
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