$10 NLHE Full Ring: Too aggressive?

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pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

MP1 ($10.92)
MP2 ($10)
CO ($11.33)
Button ($10)
Hero (SB) ($10.05)
BB ($11.65)
UTG ($12.32)
UTG+1 ($10.13)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
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UTG raises to $0.30, 4 folds, Button calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($1) A
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(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.52, Button raises to $1.85, Hero raises to $9.75 (All-In),
 
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Well why did you shove? It can never be a bad thing but against two opponents it's unlikely you are ahead if called. And what you do by shoving is make sure they fold all the weaker draws you crush. Just cold-call the button raise here and see how it plays out. You want to keep any potential bluffs or semibluffs in the pot and you're never going to get better to fold bar occasionally a big ace
 
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Although you're never dead , but not yet invest their money into the pot. If you put a range of hands, and that your opponents with such ranges hands have passed (no fold equity ) , then you fold.


You can play push only if you accept ranges hands more loose or if he said a little fold equity .

you have 32% EQ
 
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Disagree with your decision, not necessary to do shove, i'd play this spot more passive and just call, potential draws and TP makes your chances good to take down this pot, if shove is option i can do it if i wanna take pot immediately on flop, like you did actually, but not on this situation.
 
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2 aggressive, u shouldnt have shoved there, flat call there would be great, i bet the first raise will also flat, btw u dont have the nuts just yet, u have top pair with nuts flush draw, but at this stage u were easily beat by a set of T`s and 2`s, u shoved like u knew the flush was coming i cant tell u enough how many times i was left out dry when i was on a flush draw, so i would flat there, and see what the turn brings and go from there, if the turn is ugly and i face allin one of the two guys probably has a set and i can save some money, but if i hit the flush i also have two players to bet in to and make even more money, after the shove i bet one of them folded
 
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Fold pre, and it's not even close. Calling isn't that great, since we are not closing the action. UTG may jam AK here, putting us on draws. And we're putting in 20% of our stack to see one card. Also, if BTN has what he's repping (set), he can still boat up against you if you do hit on the turn. Jamming is the worst option of the three imo. Fold slightly > calling > jamming. Still, fold pre.
 
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Personally. I think all poker has become overly aggressive.
Also seems you may have a leak or too.
 
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Agree with folding pre. As played I think shoving is better than calling. Against TT, 22, AT and broadway club draws we have 43% equity so we don't need all that many folds to make this work right? If we call here we are in a bloated pot multiway OOP and we are not even closing the action, it really can't get much worse.

Just punched it into a fold equity calculator which says we need folds 17% of the time to break even. As it is multiway and BTN has shown this much strength I'm not sure we are getting that many folds... Still think that shoving is better than calling but folding would be our best option.
 
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Not so sure full ring players, even most 6-max players, are aggro enough to raise broadway club draws vs UTG on an A high board that smashes his opening range. It's also multiway, and people bluff way less multiway. It also doesn't make sense to push out the BB if he has a weak ace if the BTN is on a draw. He wants more implied odds and better pot odds to call. He also has position, and can he really expect UTG to fold AK here? Full ring players are pretty nitty and non-aggro. So adding those broadway draws might be a little generous. I don't think we have fold equity here, and 95% of the time are crushed vs BTN's range for raising against UTG.
 
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