$10 NLHE Full Ring: Can Someone give feedback

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$10 NL HE Full Ring: Can Someone give feedback

I have changed the names to protect the innocent, but this hand did cause some friction and I was wondering what ppl thought about player A and player B.


full tilt poker Game #16205205099: Table Blitz - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:06:23 ET - 2009/11/21
Seat 1: John Doe ($8.25)
Seat 2: Awesome player ($10.73)
Seat 3: John Doe ($6.03)
Seat 4: John Doe ($2.15)
Seat 5: John Doe ($2)
Seat 6: Player A ($10.10)
Seat 7: Player B ($8.20)
Seat 8: John Doe ($5.99)
Seat 9: John Doe ($4.15)
Jphn Doe the small blind of $0.05
Awesome Player posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Player A [Qh Kd]
John Doe folds
John Doe folds
Player A raises to $0.40
Player B calls $0.40
John Doe folds
John Doe folds
John calls $0.35
Awesome player folds
*** FLOP *** [5h 5s 3h]
John Doe has 15 seconds left to act
John Doe checks
Player A checks
Player B bets $1.25
John Doe folds
Player A calls $1.25
*** TURN *** [5h 5s 3h] 7♦
Player A checks
Player B bets $6.55, and is all in
Player A calls $6.55
Player B shows [Td 9d]
Player A shows [Qh Kd]
*** RIVER *** [5h 5s 3h 7d] 8♦
Player B shows a pair of Fives
Player A shows a pair of Fives
Player A wins the pot ($15.78) with a pair of Fives
Player B is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $16.90 | Rake $1.12
Board: [5h 5s 3h 7d 8d]
Seat 1: John Doe (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Awesome player (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: John Doe didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: John Doe didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5:John Doe is sitting out
Seat 6: Player A showed [Qh Kd] and won ($15.78) with a pair of Fives
Seat 7: Player B showed [Td 9d] and lost with a pair of Fives
Seat 8: John Doe didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: John Doe (button) didn't bet (folded)
 
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Not sure I'm calling an all in with K high there. I'm assuming Player A had a good read on player B. Maybe he had seen this before. With that flop it's not likely anyone has anything. and depending on the range A had B on, he figures he's trying to buy the pot. That's kinda what it looks like. Way aggressive move, on a board that doesn't really hit anyone. That's called going with your gut or a pure soul read.
 
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http://www.stoxpoker.com/pokertools/handconverter and http://www.handconverter.com/ are alot easier to use then editing out names ;).

Honestly prf is the only street i dont mind.
On the flop i just c/f. Small PPs and Ax make up alot of villains range and where behind to both, even if we knew he had T9 this is still a crappy spot since where OOP and T9 actualy has 36% equity against us.
Even if we have some magical soul read that he is bluffing this still sucks because we dont actualy beat alot of his bluffs.
I mean ffs even if his range here is any ace, any pair, any broadway, any suited hand where still just flipping against his range.

I dont know this hand just makes me feel kinda sick.
Where OOP.
With no(ok litle) showdown value.
Few outs for the times where behind to Ax,PP and better.

There are spots for hero calls but this is def not one of them imo.
c/f or cbet/fold this flop and move on, if you do have a magic read on villain use it to value bet him to death when u have atleast second pair+ and dont waste your time trying to hero call with Khigh vs a aggro oponet when our equity sucks.


Not that i think it changes anything regarding this hand but next time could u include more info in OP :).
 
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I will say this is CC ring so players have some reads, sorry I left that out
player a and b both cc
Awesome player is cc too but cannot reveal their identity
a few players are random.
 
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That's either one brilliant read, or a good read combined with a lot of luck. I'm going with the latter.

Making calls with K high is dumb unless you can put someone on a missed straight draw (this isn't one of those situations).

How does player A know that he doesn't have a pocket pair? How does player A know he doesn't have 56, 67, 78, 89? If we know that player B doesn't have one of those hands, most of the rest of his range has an ace in his hand.


Even if you know he's weak, it doesn't mean you can call an all in shove with K high.
 
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Biggest problem for me in making any kind of evaluation is that at a CC table I think any kind of play is viable.

PFR/ch/cl the flop is fine for player A if he believes that B might be betting with position and air, but I probably fold 80% of the time. I'm not a fan of the turn shove by B as it says weakness most of the time to me. It's just a dare to call.
 
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my thoughts on Player A: awful
my thoughts on Player B: awful
 
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Standard CC ring game spew on both parts.

If either player involved claims any different I'll call them a liar.
 
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