$10 NLHE Full Ring: Short unusual hand

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 15/10/1

poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players

Do not often see 4 handed in a three bet pot.

UTG+1: $10.27 (102.7 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): $10.38 (103.8 bb)
MP1: $10 (100 bb)
MP2: $18.69 (186.9 bb)
MP3: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
CO: $11.14 (111.4 bb)
BTN: $15.17 (151.7 bb) Villain 7.1% three bet in 42 hands
SB: $10.23 (102.3 bb)
BB: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Kh Ah
UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 4 folds, BTN raises to $0.90, SB calls $0.85, BB calls $0.80,
It was surprising to have both blinds call the 3bet.I hadn't been at the table as long as them and was wondering why his three bet was getting no apparent respect so this combined with his 7% 3 bet stat led my to believe I could 4 bet for value here.
Hero raises to $3, BTN raises to $6.80, 2 folds.

Is folding this ok now? If we call we are pot committed so it's shove or fold.
He is 15/10 and willing to take on 3 players pre flop who have already shown considerable strength. Must be AA or KK maybe QQ and we are crushed or flipping at best. I have the feeling if id just called rather than 4 bet i would have been stacked if an ace or K comes on the flop.

Folding here is terrible, stop burning money.

c9h13no3 said:

Folding here is terrible, stop burning money.

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Lol.

Its true. He has to have AK in his range too. means that if we are pretty close to 50/50 in terms of equity, and better still that you are suited.

There is too much money in the pot to fold, its a money making play to get it in here.

Thanks for the feedback I will bear it in mind. I ran a leakbuster analysis this week which showed AK to be one of my biggest losing hands. I also got stacked last night calling a 4 bet with AK and losing to AA on a AQ8 flop. Im hoping its just variance but everytime ive got it all in with AK recently ive lost. Ill check exactly with leakbuster later.

His 3bet% is big enough to go for value but I've lost that much calling AK off PF to be up against AA KK or flipping at best like you say. If he's got AK here your shoving it into split. If he raises you like he did you get the feeling he's trying to commit you to the pot with AA, KK or QQ.

I actually like calling his raise and playing it 4 way, AKs plays fairly well in multi way pots IMO, if you hit your draw your gonna get odds to play for it most of the time. If an A or K come then there's less chance of you getting stacked with TPTK with 2 extra players in.

As played I don't think you have an option not to get it in as your getting the odds to flip and are committed at this point. His 3bet% warrants it as though its a low sample he may be capable of doing this with TT-QQ, AK you chop, AA and KK well at least your suited

DO you have his VP and PFR by the way?

If this had been a heads po with no blinds involved I would have called. I was put off calling here by the fact that he has 5 bet and not shoved with both the blinds and me still to act. His stats are posted at the top of the thread and are decent. The fact that both blinds called a 3 bet oop with me the original raiser still to act isnt mentioned by anyone yet....Im ranging the blinds to 10s JJ AK AQ maybe even as strong as QQ yet he happily 5 bets presumably looking for someone to shove...Whatever the blinds have they are certainly reducing my chances of hitting myhand. Im actually beginning to think the fold was ok. I know this was a tight fold but that is why I posted it for discussion

5 bet shove every day of the week. Don't play scared poker with such beautiful cards.

Figaroo2 said:

I was put off calling here by the fact that he has 5 bet and not shoved with both the blinds and me still to act.

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This is what would worry me and why I think it was a good fold, it looks like he's trying to level someone into shoving and there's a good chance its Aces and he's trying to get HU without pushing everyone out the pot. The reasons I'd call here are purely due to his 3 bet% and the amount already invested in the pot. I like the way you noted that the blinds also don't seem to give him much credit, which would also influence me to call (but when your a degenerate like me you don't need much influencing lmao).
Overall I think it was an extremely disciplined and good fold. I wish I was this disciplined because I have shoved in HU spots where I felt like I was being levelled into shoving like this with AKs purely because the odds were good for flippin to end up against AA, KK or on the wrong end of a flip with QQ.
The amount of players who called his 3 bet I'd have personally just flatted it and played a multi way pot here though. Like you say, the blinds could have a fairly strong range (although I beleive it's wider then TT-QQ, AK and AQ, especially for the BB) and I'd like to go to the flop as opposed to opening the PF action again.