$10 NLHE Full Ring: Rush poker. KK in the BB,Flops 2nd set on monotone board.

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$10 NL HE Full Ring: Rush poker. KK in the BB,Flops 2nd set on monotone board.

Not top set. Typing error.

Table Mach 10 - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em
Seat 1: #### ($10.52)
Seat 2: #### ($15)
Seat 3: #### ($10.60)
Seat 4: #### ($9.94)
Seat 5: #### ($24.65)
Seat 6: #### ($1.72)
Seat 7: #### ($10)
Seat 8: FOLDORBUSTEM ($15.11)
Seat 9: #### ($19.77)
#### posts the small blind of $0.05
FOLDORBUSTEM posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to FOLDORBUSTEM [Kd Kh]
#### folds
#### folds
#### folds
#### has 8 seconds left to act
#### raises to $0.35
#### folds
#### folds
#### folds
#### folds
#### raises to $1.20
#### has 15 seconds left to act
#### calls $0.85
*** FLOP *** [Ac Kc 3c]
FOLDORBUSTEM has 15 seconds left to act
FOLDORBUSTEM bets $2
#### calls $2
*** TURN *** [Ac Kc 3c] [Qc]
FOLDORBUSTEM checks
#### checks
*** RIVER *** [Ac Kc 3c Qc] [8h]
FOLDORBUSTEM checks
#### bets $4.10
FOLDORBUSTEM .....

Ok this here I know should of be a fold, I guessed I was beat, but I called Just to see what he had and see if i was right.
I just love rewarding the lucky, Any guesses to what he had?
 
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bet the turn imo.
 
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Can you convert it instead of putting ##### - it makes it hard to follow, especially when you do it to your own name...
 
slycbnew

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what?

what hands that we beat do we extract value from?

None

what hands do we fold that we didn't beat?

On the turn, nothing other than middle pairs w a club maybe.

Yup, got it, and we still have full house outs so betting the turn is dumb.
 
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guessing game, oh goodie....

JT clubs, obviously
 
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I like the line you took, including the river call.

All streets are standard up to the river where I think we're going to have a hard job finding a fold. Roughly 2.5:1, and if he's got an actual functioning brain this is a really good spot to bluff (I don't like the sizing though).

If he's not up to bluffing here then there's a good chance he's bad enough to bet AK/AQ which together I think make this a call. I mean, what clubs can he have? The A, K and Q are out there, so he has to have either a hand with a J or T which are significantly less likely, or he had to call your 3bet with a SCer which will happen quite a bit (despite being a horrible play) the chances are slim. E.g. AJ=16combinations, card removal=12combos, combos with Jc in them=3, same with T. + both the J and T are less likely to make the pre-flop call than they are to fold (so the 3 combos are really less than 3 combos..).
So anyway >6 combinations for big flush, SCers are >12 (being really likely to be folded pre-flop), so (significantly) less than 18 all up.
AK/AQ= >12 (since there's a good chance he checks them on the river).


With 2.5:1 to make up for all things possibly wrong with my thought process here, I'm calling. If it was close I'd fold purely because of the amount of guesswork required but it looks like a clear call.
 
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