$10 NLHE Full Ring: QQ Galore!! Help me not lose a fortune with Queens!

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watchtowel

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Queens is my biggest losing hand over 50000 hands so I am playing one of the best hands pretty bad. I am posting all my losses with them for some evaluation. Thanks!

HAND 1

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB ($10.15)
UTG ($3.85)
UTG+1 ($7.71)
MP1 ($14.78)
Hero (MP2) ($12.77)
MP3 ($12.68)
CO ($10)
Button ($16.88)
SB ($9.84)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q
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, Q
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1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Button calls $0.75, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.60) 2
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, 2
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, 5
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(3 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.97, Button raises to $16.13 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $6.96 (All-In), Hero calls $10.05 (All-In)

Turn: ($33.60) 2
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(3 players, 3 all-in)

River: ($33.60) J
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(3 players, 3 all-in)

Total pot: $33.60 | Rake: $1.67


HAND 2

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($14.14)
UTG+1 ($4.25)
MP1 ($3.96)
MP2 ($1.37)
CO ($10.05)
Hero (Button) ($13.48)
SB ($8.57)
BB ($12.61)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q
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, Q
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UTG bets $0.40, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.60) 2
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, 9
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, 4
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(4 players)
SB bets $0.70, 1 fold, UTG raises to $4.55, Hero raises to $13.08 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG calls $8.53

Turn: ($28.46) 4
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($28.46) 3
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $28.46 | Rake: $1.41


HAND 3

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP2) ($10)
MP3 ($10.46)
CO ($8.61)
Button ($10.13)
SB ($10)
BB ($10)
UTG ($7.25)
UTG+1 ($3.62)
MP1 ($2.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q
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, Q
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1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.45, MP3 calls $0.45, CO calls $0.45, 3 folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.80, Hero raises to $2.70, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls $1.90

Flop: ($6.45) 3
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, 8
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, 3
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(2 players)
UTG+1 bets $0.92 (All-In), Hero calls $0.92

Turn: ($8.29) 6
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($8.29) 4
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $8.29 | Rake: $0.39



HAND 4


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($12.23)
MP2 ($10.52)
Hero (MP3) ($10.30)
CO ($4.11)
Button ($15.95)
SB ($4.84)
BB ($12.35)
UTG ($10.57)
UTG+1 ($8.28)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q
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, Q
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4 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) J
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, 4
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, 2
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(2 players)
BB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.25, BB calls $0.85

Turn: ($3.15) 8
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.20, BB raises to $10.80 (All-In), Hero calls $6.55 (All-In)

River: ($20.65) 7
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.65 | Rake: $1.02


HAND 5

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($10.02)
SB ($10.03)
BB ($4)
Hero (UTG) ($11.23)
UTG+1 ($5.34)
MP1 ($9.98)
MP2 ($4)
MP3 ($10.11)
CO ($4.87)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q
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, Q
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Hero bets $0.40, 5 folds, Button calls $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.30) 4
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, 3
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, 7
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.99, Button calls $0.99, SB calls $0.99

Turn: ($4.27) A
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $3

River: ($10.27) 10
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(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $5.63 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $10.27 | Rake: $0.50




HAND 6

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($10.90)
BB ($10.15)
UTG ($10.14)
UTG+1 ($10.42)
MP1 ($12.58)
MP2 ($4)
Hero (MP3) ($10)
CO ($10.81)
Button ($11.72)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q
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, Q
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4 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, Button calls $0.30, SB raises to $1.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.10, 1 fold

Flop: ($3.20) 7
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, K
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, 5
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.20, SB calls $2.20

Turn: ($7.60) 2
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($7.60) 5
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(2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero calls $3

Total pot: $13.60 | Rake: $0.66
 
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6 hands in one thread is too ridic. Keep it to one per thread and youll get better reponses. Plus you have no reads/stats on villains so not much to say.

One thing tho... it doesnt look like you have a plan for your hands and you're not paying enough attention to stack sizes.
 
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50k hands is not a big sample honestly.
 
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Well my answer might not be relevant since my mind set is playin 50nl - 100nl games but I would imagine these games would have some tardish players, which makes it all the more harder having no stats on the villains but reading it blind this is how I would interpret them as a 50 - 100nl player, I'll have a go.
Hands 1 to 3 i think is fine.
hands 4 to 6 i'm havin some problems with

Hand 4 - , flop fine, turn bet fine turn bet call isnt.
I usually find this player would call for his draws and would call his jack,when he check raises all in he is two pair or better so many times. here is a nice guide I found on this, its been proven mathmatically longterm if you call this bet you will loose. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/7...raise-data-analysis-micro-stakes-long-131987/ - I give this credit to acky100 found it in one of his posts, and its been saving me ALOT lol.

Hand 5
I can go either way with personally, as played but you could make the argument if your gunna check call fold, i rather a bet/fold however since fish love all aces when I see that turn card vs two fish in a pot i'm done.

Hand 6
the re raise is pretty alarming IF* he never 3 bets, call me weak but when i see the king flop givin up, however if he 3bets abit i like the other option which is bet folding and I prefer that option so river i fold.
 
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I cant really comment on many cause we know nothing about stats, but please post some individually with player stats and reads.

Hand 6 though, why are you betting the flop? looks like a WA/WB situation to me does it not?
 
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Well my answer might not be relevant since my mind set is playin 50nl - 100nl games but I would imagine these games would have some tardish players, which makes it all the more harder having no stats on the villains but reading it blind this is how I would interpret them as a 50 - 100nl player, I'll have a go.
Hands 1 to 3 i think is fine.
hands 4 to 6 i'm havin some problems with

Hand 4 - , flop fine, turn bet fine turn bet call isnt.
I usually find this player would call for his draws and would call his jack,when he check raises all in he is two pair or better so many times. here is a nice guide I found on this, its been proven mathmatically longterm if you call this bet you will loose. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/7...raise-data-analysis-micro-stakes-long-131987/ - I give this credit to acky100 found it in one of his posts, and its been saving me ALOT lol.

Hand 5
I can go either way with personally, as played but you could make the argument if your gunna check call fold, i rather a bet/fold however since fish love all aces when I see that turn card vs two fish in a pot i'm done.

Hand 6
the re raise is pretty alarming IF* he never 3 bets, call me weak but when i see the king flop givin up, however if he 3bets abit i like the other option which is bet folding and I prefer that option so river i fold.

Thanks these all make sense!

I hadn't heard of WA/WB at this point I think.

The reason I am posting a lot of hands is to give people a general idea of how I play them and to get general feedback on where I am going wrong. Personally I thought I might be overvaluing them postflop. I didn't expect in-depth analysis of each hand, just more general feedback.

I know 50000 isn't huge but surely it is enough to say I shouldn't be down $28.... I would expect to be making a nice profit with such a strong hand. All my other hands are fine, 99-jj, A10-AK, AA and KK all show nice profits, but QQ has always lost me money...
 
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