$10 NLHE Full Ring: Pocket Tens vs. ? on J High Board

$10 NL HE Full Ring: Pocket Tens vs. ? on J High Board

I was playing some cash games on Stars and this hand came along. This villain had been out of line several times. He was broke two times and reloaded for the minimum both times. What hand do you put this guy on?

Hand info:



Date:2010/05/24 9:51:42 CT [2010/05/24 10:51:42 ET]Type:Cash GamesGame:Hold'em NLTable:'Ingwelde III' 9-maxBlinds: $0.05/0.10

Table info:

Seat 1: Malariabomb ($2)
Seat 2: VMaxer666 ($1.75)
Seat 3: A694ME ($6)
Seat 4: amennef ($3.80)
Seat 5: Rockin' D($8.85)
Seat 6: kristaps23 ($1.50)
Dealer
Seat 7: Valentiniy ($4.75)
Posts small blind $0.05
Seat 8: Phenix_88888 ($1.90)
Posts big blind $0.10
Seat 9: T0ny Adams ($2.90)

Dealt to Rockin' D



Check odds
Preflop: (Pot: $0.15)

FOLD Malariabomb
FOLD VMaxer666
FOLD A694ME
CALL amennef, $.10
RAISE Rockin' D, to $.30
FOLD kristaps23
FOLD Valentiniy
FOLD Phenix_88888
FOLD T0ny Adams
CALL amennef, $.20



Check odds
Flop: (Pot: $.75)


BET amennef, $.30
RAISE Rockin' D, to $1.20
CALL amennef, $.90



Check odds
Turn: (Pot: $3.15)


CHECK amennef
BET Rockin' D, $2.30
CALL amennef, $2.30 and is ALL-IN



River: (Pot: $7.75)

K4o?

Stu_Ungar said:

K4o?

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LOL... That's incredible! Umm... I guess you looked at the rest of the hand history? That's exactly what he called all his chips off with. I don't get it... I had him on a club draw or AK/AQ. I didn't expect K4o.

His range preflop? Who knows.

Make your preflop bet larger, at least to $.40. His range on the flop is probably lots of flush draws, a few str8 draws, sets, 2 pair, TP, and overs. In other words get the $$ in.

WVHillbilly said:

His range preflop? Who knows.

Make your preflop bet larger, at least to $.40. His range on the flop is probably lots of flush draws, a few str8 draws, sets, 2 pair, TP, and overs. In other words get the $$ in.

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His range preflop was unpredictable.. I had been raising to 3x the BB preflop and didn't want to make a different raise when I had TT. Don't want to give away too much info. He is playing any two hoping to hit the flop as far as I can tell. I didn't feel like he had an overpair. When he called all in I was very concerned!

When playing players like that you want to make all of your raises bigger. I go to 5x

You also want to play high pairs and high cards more than hands like small PP and suited connectors because high cards hit more often and against a player as short as this, if you hit you get the stack in.

Stu_Ungar said:

When playing players like that you want to make all of your raises bigger. I go to 5x

You also want to play high pairs and high cards more than hands like small PP and suited connectors because high cards hit more often and against a player as short as this, if you hit you get the stack in.

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Good point. It was a fairly juicy table when I sat down. It had somehow filled up with short stacks by the time this hand came about. I was getting ready to leave.

I open to 3x (would recommend you open to 4x at 10nl) as my standard but I add 1 bb / limper, so in this case I would go to 4x (again I would recommend at 10nl to make it 4x +1 per limper). It gives away nothing about the strength of your hand beyond that you think it's good enough to iso-raise a limper.

WVHillbilly said:

I open to 3x (would recommend you open to 4x at 10nl) as my standard but I add 1 bb / limper, so in this case I would go to 4x (again I would recommend at 10nl to make it 4x +1 per limper). It gives away nothing about the strength of your hand beyond that you think it's good enough to iso-raise a limper.

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If your standard raise is 3x, then you need to go to 0.40 here as WV says, or more as Stu suggests, otherwise you give him too good of odds to call. This becomes more obvious the more limpers you have.

I 5x a limper no matter what stakes I'm playing because the limper will almost always be bad so I like to build the pot as much as I can preflop because I know he'll either give up and or I'll outflop him so often. And it's tough to put villain on a range when he's this spewy. Just remember to always valuebet as thinly as you possibly can vs these guys.

line looks fine to me other than the small raise preflop