$10 NLHE Full Ring: Pkt 10s in the BB - c/c the whole way or raise & where?

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$10 NL HE Full Ring: Pkt 10s in the BB - c/c the whole way or raise & where?

This is hand from a session during Rush. No stats on villain. This board is very good & safe for my hand so IMO, I played the hand too passively.

It wasn't a huge pot but I think that I could've played it differently & not be so passive. I know I'm OOP here & re-raising from the BB when not knowing where you're @ (which, for me, is totally the case here) can sometimes be suicide. I was on 3 Rush tbls & hadn't played any hands w/ this player. So...

I think it might be better to post each part/street (PF - River) of the hand separately after reviewing/discussing each. That way we can come up w/ different situations & where I should be raising &/or calling & how much.

Preflop:

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP3: $3.90 (39 bb)
CO: $13.25 (132.5 bb)
BTN: $4 (40 bb)
SB: $8.05 (80.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $15.92 (159.2 bb)
UTG+1: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
UTG+2: $4.20 (42 bb)
MP1: $9.26 (92.6 bb)
MP2: $13.35 (133.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with T
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T
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2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.30, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.20

I know I could've raised here but like I said, I had no stats or reads & I was OOP. Was calling the best move here? If not, why?
 
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Readless, my default play is to 3bet. Reasoning:

1. TT doesn't flop well, too many overcards.
2. Most 4bet ranges at 10nl are very tight, and most 3bet calling ranges don't include AK+, KK+ - helps define our hand better.
3. Playing oop sucks. It's not impossible, but it sucks.
 
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I agree w/ all of those reasons but #3 (to me) was what I was thinking about more than anything while the hand was going on. Once again, the board is good & safe for my hand & I'm not sure why I played it so passively.

Flop:

Flop: ($0.65) 8:diamond: 2:club: 7:spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Thoughts?
 
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Ya, auto c/r imo. I'd like to end the hand now readless. I think there are potential arguments to string it out - but I'd rather string it out against a CO or BTN range readless than MP...
 
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I think flatting is fine (as is 3betting) as long as you're willing to play a little postfolp even with an overcard. Calling with the plan to ch/fold flops with overs sucks though.

Also here's a little tip for you, people who start hands with less than 100 bbs but more than a SS are, as a rule, fish. Treat them as such until they prove otherwise.
 
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Check-raise the flop, we have decent (but not great) equity against most floating ranges and it's really easy to make him make a mistake now rather than waiting for the turn where if any scare card hits we'll probably have to continue anyway and be the one at risk of making mistakes.

I know I could've raised here but like I said, I had no stats or reads & I was OOP. Was calling the best move here? If not, why?

Being OOP gives you more reason to raise, not less.
Playing OOP isn't good so you want to maximise fold equity and lower the SPR so your post-flop decisions are simple and you're playing fewer streets (i.e. stacks tend to go in on the flop or turn instead of the river).
 
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Nice replies so far. JFTR, I wasn't planning on folding on any street here unless he went nuts & started betting huge. From the way I've played it so far, I know this gives MP a better chance of hitting his card(s) but for some reason I really didn't think he had shit & thought he had @ most like 6 outs so I was willing to c/c his BA the whole way.

Turn:

Turn: ($1.45) 6:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Hmmm, way too passive!!
 
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Never got to finish this because obviously all the info has already been posted on how to play this situation(s) but I'll still post the last part of it (river). I def should've bet here on river being I knew he was weak by that small bet on the turn. But for some strange reason, I played this hand way too passive all the way. Bad, bad, bad.

River: ($2.45) 7:club: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 checks

Final Pot: $2.45
Hero shows T:club: T:heart: (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
UTG+2 shows K:diamond: A:club: (a pair of Sevens)
Hero wins $2.29
(Rake: $0.16)
 
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