$10 NLHE Full Ring: Okay line on a mono flop?

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There was a time when I would have check folded flops like these even with tptk until I was told here that flopping flushes is quite hard to do so it will normally be a flush draw. I thought checking the river would induce a bluff and I had no intention of folding to a shove.

I thought a set of 2s were possible. Not many Jxs limp and set of 10s would have raised preflop. So unless he flopped a flush or had 22 I thought I was good here. I have stats on villain but would like to see how you would play against three types of opponents:

- An unknown.
- 15 / 12
- 25 / 17


pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($10.15)
UTG+1 ($11.27)
MP1 ($15.37)
MP2 ($9.65)
MP3 ($9.01)
CO ($3.80)
Button ($19.25)
SB ($10)
Hero (BB) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K
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, 10
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4 folds, MP3 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Hero bets $0.40, MP3 calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) 10
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, A
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, 2
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.60, MP3 calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.10) K
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, MP3 calls $1.60

River: ($5.30) Q
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets $6.36 (All-In), Hero calls $6.36

Total pot: $18.02 | Rake: $0.88
 
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I would probably check pre. But if you are raising, I think it should be bigger.

Against an unknown, the rest seems good, since he limped = maybe fish, but river is a fold. You narrow out jx, but unknowns that limp definitely have j8s, j9s, etc type of hands as limping hands.

Against the other two, I think we ch/f flop. We really don't know if we are against a draw or against an ace.
 
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Raise pre is not bad really most players will just limp then fold to a cbet so its easy money most of the time.
I think hand is fine but I am not sure you are good often enough to call on the river. Obviously reads matter but I dont see any unless I just missed them. I am folding river readless here.
 
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I would probably check pre. But if you are raising, I think it should be bigger.

Against an unknown, the rest seems good, since he limped = maybe fish, but river is a fold. You narrow out jx, but unknowns that limp definitely have j8s, j9s, etc type of hands as limping hands.

Against the other two, I think we ch/f flop. We really don't know if we are against a draw or against an ace.

I think check-folding the flop is a bit weak. We hit second pair and he limped so it would be worth a cbet to try taking it down. I would fold to a raise but the turn obviously makes me want to continue.
 
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It's really hard to comment on what id do if it was a 15/12 or a 25/17 because typically those kind of players won't open limp so I wont comment on it.

For an unknown, i think a .40-.50 raise is good and the flop cbet is good too. Go ahead and vbet larger on the turn though because hes bad and will call with worse a lot of the time.

River sucks i think but id probably bet around 1/3-1/2 pot and see what happens lol
 
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At 10nl there are some villains with tighter stats than that that will limp. For the record, the villain was actually a 10 / 7 over 60ish hands. Think his aggression factor was like 2 or 3. I couldn't really fold the river when my plan was to induce a bluff lol :p. Something just made me confident about this hand despite his stats.
 
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At 10nl there are some villains with tighter stats than that that will limp. For the record, the villain was actually a 10 / 7 over 60ish hands. Think his aggression factor was like 2 or 3. I couldn't really fold the river when my plan was to induce a bluff lol :p. Something just made me confident about this hand despite his stats.

10% of 60 = 6

70% of 6 = 4/5 depending if it was 60 or 69

So he has limped/called a raise once or twice, I wouldn't read too much into it.
 
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