$10 NLHE Full Ring: not sure how i played this hand...

acky100

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I keep thinking about this hand, it looks relatively simple but villain was a 25/25/6 over like 60 hands, not a huge sample, but the only reads i had on him was that he liked being aggressive and especially when he had a chance to steal some blinds.
Is this just basic Baluga? Also thinking maybe it is a WA/WB situation and i should of just checked the turn back? Villain was a tricky bastard and on the turn he let the time run out before checking, does this scream monster?

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($10.13)
UTG+1 ($4)
MP1 ($11.69)
MP2 ($9.74)
CO ($10)
Hero (Button) ($10)
SB ($8.29)
BB ($3.80)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q
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, K
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4 folds, CO bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) Q
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9
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, 9
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(2 players)
CO bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.75) 8
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(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $1, CO raises to $3.10, Hero??
 
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I would have liked to see you 3Bet him from the button there with that hand instead of just flatting as you're really not finding out much about his hand. He's playing 1/4 of his hands and has been raising every one of them, so you know that not every one has been strong. What was his CB%? I am guessing it was probably damn near 100% with the stats given, but once again, you should have raised him, as of course he's going to fire out a CB on that board. By the turn, I kind of think you've just let him get too many cards by letting him control the action, but you did pick up the flush draw. Although you're not getting the right odds to call, even if you count the Kings as 3 extra possible outs(Against AQ maybe), then you are still only about 3.5:1 to hit. I say fold.

I'm guessing you either folded(right play) and didn't see what he had, or you called, then stacked off on the river and he showed AQ or A9
 
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Thanks for the reply, yeah i've been struggling with this one as there was so many questions i was asking myself. "should i have 3bet him" "raised his flop bet" etc, but yeah i think the reason i flat called here was after all the debates on flatting hands like AJ in the blinds when you know you're ahead of their range so you dont fold out hands you beat... but thinking about it a 3bet would of maybe gave me a little more information... as maybe would raising his flop bet but at the time i think i just felt the best way to exploit this guy who bets too much was by letting him.
 
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What was his f3bet? His turn raise doesn't make sense to me as most aggrotards would bet their straights on the turn as well as trips however he still could. I'm starting to wonder if i even like betting the turn. He probably only calls with JJ/TT/QJ/ maybe lesser flush draws and perhaps KJ(doubt it). When we check turn we get him to bluff rivers and get a free draw to a flush
 
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Yep not sure on fold 3bet and probs wouldnt mean anything anyways over 60 hands but i am thinking i should of taken a free card and perhaps called a small river bet and then i get some information on the guys thought process too, thanks for the replies guys
 
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I like a shove on the turn.

It's not baluga as baluga is something like ch/c flop, ch/raise river. He leads, leads, ch/r which is kinda wierd in itself.

It's not WA/WB as he has all kinds of hands that we beat that can catch up fairly easily/we can catch up to.
 
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I flat pre-flop all day long and flatting flop is fine, checking back turn might have been better as we pretty much don't fear any cards on the river and we give him chance to bluff. As played I still shove turn but there's merit to checking back turn.
 
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Hero calls.

This isn't WA/WB when the turn brings in two possible big draws, so betting is mandatory. With an opponent this aggressive, I'm comfortable calling and calling again on the river. Raising just shuts down his bluff when he doesn't have it and makes us look dumb when he does :)
 
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I flat pre. We've no reason to believe villain is a fish and will call with worse whilst we dominate his CO stealing range.

I flat turn. Sure we have a draw but we also may have the best hand so be arsed turning it into a bluff. That and the straight just came in.
 
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I think I don't mind calling preflop here as villain seems pretty fishy (tiny sample) and we're probably ahead of his range and 3 betting might fold out all his hands we're ahead of - however I would like to know his F3bet and 4bet stats before we raise him - though doubt there worth much on this sample tbh.

As played, I check back the turn. There are not many cards that can come that scare us and we have decent SDV. Assuming his Cbetflop is high, floating and betting turn is fine (bet bigger) but when he raises are we happy playing for stacks? I'm not.

Check back turn and let him bluff river if it blanks out...
 
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I like bet / folding the turn. Your average villain no matter how aggressive is not going to be bluff-raising the turn on that board pretty much ever and since our draw is not to the nuts, we're not really losing as much value as some seem to think since we may lose our whole stack when we do hit.
 
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