$10 NLHE Full Ring: Nit 3bets from CO while I have QQ UTG+2

$10 NL HE Full Ring: Nit 3bets from CO while I have QQ UTG+2

full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 585748
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Hero (UTG+1): $10.49
MP1: $7.63
MP2: $3.05
CO: $17.48
BTN: $10.63
SB: $4.00
BB: $16.97
UTG: $20.46

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with Q ♥ Q ♣
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, 3 folds, Hero ...


Villian is 3/3/INF over 63 hands.. I saw him open limp in with ATs from MP earlier before I took a seat, but I acctually didn't see that till after this hand while looking through the hand re-player. I assume he has a high pocket pair since he isn't playing anything, but the sample I have on him isn't even 100 hands yet.
Since he seems so tight should I just be calling with QQ here, or should I be 4betting, or should I even consider laying it down since he is a nit?
I think I should just call and see what the flop looks like, but I could be making a mistake I dunno. I don't think he is gonna fold to a 4bet and I don't really like folding QQ that often but that does get me into trouble sometimes.

How can he open limp and still be a 3/3? Does not compute.

As for the hand, i snap fold.
We cant set mine and where like never good here against a nitty 10nl player.
Yeah u only have a tiny sample on him but 63 hands is still enough to tell u he is squeky tight, hell where flipping against a 3% range imagine how we are against his 3bet range.
You really think he decites after folding every hand that he is gonna start 3betting a UTG+1 raiser light?

sindri_93 said:

How can he open limp and still be a 3/3? Does not compute.

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Vfranks said:

I saw him open limp in with ATs from MP earlier before I took a seat, but I acctually didn't see that till after this hand while looking through the hand re-player.

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hand replayer= FTP last hand button...u didn't think was a dataminer did ya?...

I was on the waiting list, so thats why it didn't compute. I saw it in the replayer and scratched my head for 5 mins trying to figure out why his vpip and pfr were the same if he had limped earlier, than realized the obvious lol.

Yeah I have gotten myself into trouble with similar hand vs very tight players. I also think I should have folded, but pokerstove says I am ahead by a little, but not much. Did I use pokerstove correctly?

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Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 44.193% 42.62% 01.58% 25540918 943970.00 { 99+, AKs }
Hand 1: 55.807% 54.23% 01.58% 32501782 943970.00 { QcQh }


EDIT: oh I guess that's a flip, like you said.. so how much more equity do you need to be profitable and comfortable? Like 60/30? or is that a question that can't really be answered?

Snap fold really?
I know he is 3/3 but that's over a tiny sample and i mean he open limped with a10, can we really give him credit for aa or kk? I could see it but would raising to $3.00 be out of the question here?
I mean 3/3 is amazingly nitty idk if anyone can actually maintain playing that range.

Call and CRAI on non A/K boards. 63 hands is not anywhere near enough to be considering folding QQ here.

lol didnt notice that.

The 99+AK+ is rougly what his raising range has been over the tiny sample we have on him, his 3bet could be significantly tighter.
In all likelyhood he is gonna have a higher vp/pfr then u have on him now but its not like he is gonna turn out to be a maniac and nits at 10nl just dont 3bet light or anything at all besides KK/AA pretty much.

I just dont see how we are ever good here vs a nit at 10nl FR, so since where OOP not geting set mining odds and very litle FE for jam/4bet i think all we can do is fold.

Hero calls $0.85

Flop: ($2.65) K :club: Q :spade: 3 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1.95, Hero raises to $5, CO raises to $8.05, Hero raises to $9.24 all in, CO calls $1.19

Turn: ($21.13) T :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($21.13) 7 :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $21.13
Hero shows Q :heart: Q :club: (three of a kind, Queens)
CO shows A :heart: A :spade: (a pair of Aces)
Hero wins $19.73
(Rake: $1.40)

I guess I got lucky and hit my set, the only problem was I had suspicion of AA or KK, and after the flop I was hoping AA and not KK. I had serious thought of folding preflop but called instead. Once I hit my set I don't think there's anyway I'm folding then.

I'm with sindri on this one for sure. You're opening UTG+1 and he's 3betting you, I don't think twice. I think 99-JJ doesnt 3bet you when you're opening in EP position and you do pretty bad against AKs, QQ+. Just because he opened limped ATs has nothing to do with how strong his 3betting range will be.

dsvw56 said:

Call and CRAI on non A/K boards. 63 hands is not anywhere near enough to be considering folding QQ here.

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you're kidding right? Flatting is fine but ch/shoving on lower boards is just not going to be profitable at all. If you think he's bluffing a lot you'd just call down but ch/shoving under flops is just asking for action against KK+ and to fold everything else out.

Oh and I fold pre most of the time. He's never light and most players, let alone nits, aren't 3-betting JJ in this spot. So even if he 3-bets AK here you just aren't going to be able to play profitably against a range of KK+/AK. So yeah I just fold.

Well thanks for the HA from everyone! Every comment is appreciated.