$10 NLHE Full Ring: MW.. Is this too risky?

skrsh76

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Final One who callled is a very loose player with VPIP of >40. But being Multiway I was not sure if I should bet & call off or check hoping someone will bet. There is loose player in the mix as well

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CO ($6.44)
Button ($10.90)
SB ($11.81)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($8.57)
UTG+1 ($9.75)
MP1 ($22.85)
MP2 ($11.87)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10
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, K
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UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30, 1 fold, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.55) 5
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, 7
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, 4
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(5 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets $1.10, MP2 calls $1.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.10, UTG calls $1.10

Turn: ($5.95) Q
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(4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks

River: ($5.95) K
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(4 players)
Hero bets $2.84, 1 fold, MP1 calls $2.84, 1 fold

Total pot: $11.63 | Rake: $0.52
 
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Well played. Other flushes probably won't bet, pairs won't bet, but all of those things will call. Sure you'll get raised once in a while, but think about all of the times that you don't- and the value you get from them. Even when you do get raised you might even be ahead, villain dependent. You have the second nuts. Charge them!
 
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For what it's worth I probably bet a little bit more on the river, I have no other issues with how t was played.
 
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Yeah I'm with Marginal you can get even more value from this
 
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yeah, well played i think and nice hand :)
 
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Probably not conventional, but I prefer leading turn small, something like 45-55% PSB. Then river 50-65% PSB. It's unlikely someone else has a flush since it's hard to make one in the first place, and because we block two diamonds. With 4 people in the pot, I think everyone is checking behind their entire range except for flushes. So if we're going to check-raise when someone bets, which is only when they have a flush, we might as well bet ourselves to get value from two pairs/sets. And if someone has a flush and we lead, they're probably going to jam over us, so we get maximum value from leading turn. We're only going to get one more street of value like we did here vs a set/2 pair.
 
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Minh are you saying that we're only getting lower flushes to jam over if we bet turn? Like if we bet river then the only line those flushes are going to take is c/c?

I'm trying to understand the benefits of your line over the one he took (there obviously are some)
 
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He is saying only smaller flushes are going to bet turn so leading out lets us prevent a check through so we don't give 2 pairs, sets, Ad free rivers and that the bet will also induce smaller flushes to shove over us.
 
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Id prolly squeeze depending on villains and take over this pot and make it mine

And then stack off mode and push them off pot or pay me

The squeeze is good cuz it can fold Adx hands :)
 
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Yeah, IPlay summed it up ^^. 4-way the dynamics I assume change a lot, and even 3-way I'm checking back a set here. Lots of players get terrified of the flush and check/check behind everything but flushes, even heads-up or when the river completes a BDFD lol.
 
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Makes a lot of sense man thanks for explaining.
 
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if we squeeze PF and get called KTs is going to be difficult to play especially when loose players are in the table. Isn't it?

Also if bet turn and get called who is going to calls in the river? This was my thinking to check the turn
 
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i think the hand is well played, and the sizes are correct,
 
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Lot of ppl dont assume a squeeze pot would hit their flush.. we could b repping aa or qq the flush is actually hidden my way n ppl with trips or 2 pair will pay n weaker flushes... hell even lower flushes we r stackin
 
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I would have bet more on river.

I know for sure someone will call since loose players are on the mix.

Especially so when high cards came out on later streets.
 
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