$10 NLHE Full Ring: JJ overpair facing weird river bet

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watchtowel

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I don't know what to make of this except I'm beat. With his range he couild have all kinds of two pairs and straights.


pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP1 ($9.35)
MP2 ($4)
Hero (CO) ($14.95)
Button ($10.62)
SB ($8.56)
BB ($27.23)
UTG ($10.87)
UTG+1 ($10.12)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J
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, J
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4 folds, Hero bets $0.30, 2 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) 4
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, 10
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, 3
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(2 players)
BB bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.40, BB calls $1

Turn: ($3.45) 8
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.70, BB calls $2.70

River: ($8.85) 5
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(2 players)
BB bets $8.42, Hero...
 
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fold but calling can't be terrible....
 
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I think you should raise the flop donk bigger (~$1.75) and your turn bet can be bigger as well. Basically I want to commit against a huge range. As played I probably still call the river since he's could have air or be overplaying TP. I really think you'll be good often enough vs this type of player.
 
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river is a call for me against this guy
 
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40/26 - fml call probably
but he does look like the sorta fish that called with 67,A2 hopin to bink that 5, nvm the flush , he might have caught the draw on turn
actually if i was away from the table I say fold
however at the table..i dont know if I can, usually in these spots when a fish just pots it like this he got it 8/10 times
 
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Ad2d? I want to call but doubt you are good very often in this spot. lots of 2 pairs etc he might have.
 
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It just looks like one of two things to me. He improved his hand on the river, or was slowplaying something and either way I think he has 2 pair or better. Would top pair really call twice then lead out huge on the river. Of course I am assuming this fish has some kind of distant logic to his game lol.
 
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It just looks like one of two things to me. He improved his hand on the river, or was slowplaying something and either way I think he has 2 pair or better. Would top pair really call twice then lead out huge on the river. Of course I am assuming this fish has some kind of distant logic to his game lol.
That would be a major mistake.
 
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Stack to pot ratio is like 20+ are we really commiting here with an overpair?

I know it doesnt make a huge difference but raise 4x pre.

Calling isn't even an option anyways imo, as it leaves us with like 1.50 or something left, so might as well shove our remaining $10 in if we're thinking of calling, i don't think we're good here at all, its 10nl so theres every chance he could turn up with something completely random like 67 for the call 2 streets with a gutshot ftw, some crap 2 pair hand, or a big pair that he's slow played, although he could also play Tx like this too. How much has he been folding to steals? Has he been 3betting from the blinds a lot?

I probs fold and move tables b/c we're in a bad position vs an aggro guy who has us covered and makes our life a bitch most of the time, no need to stay here at 10nl, sit on any euro table and you can have 3 of them to your right!

EDIT: He doesn't play Tx like this too actually, i think we're beat, i'm guessing the sample size isn't huge either?

EDIT 2: FR's about making folds as much as it is valuetowning fish
 
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Stack to pot ratio is like 20+ are we really commiting here with an overpair?
Against this fish, if we raise the flop big enough, sure.

Basically you need to be cramming money in as fast as possible on the early streets against this guy. On guys with wide ranges, play tight pre, and lay the hammer down on them early in the hand. Don't be afraid to overbet preflop or on the flop either. Get committed before his junky ass hands can get there.

As played, I call the river all day. LAGs get paid. But if we could have gotten the money in sooner, then we wouldn't have to worry about this issue.
 
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