$10 NLHE Full Ring: Flopped str8 - turn/rvr pairs

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poker stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
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SB: $17.48 (174.8 bb)
Hero (BB): $11.69 (116.9 bb)
MP1: $9.31 (93.1 bb)
MP2: $8.06 (80.6 bb)
MP3: $10 (100 bb)
CO: $9.85 (98.5 bb)
BTN: $10.48 (104.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4s 6c
MP1 calls $0.10, MP2 calls $0.10, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.45) 7d 3d 5s (4 players)
Hero bets $0.20, MP1 raises to $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40, BTN folds, Hero raises to $1.20, MP1 calls $0.80, MP2 calls $0.80

Turn: ($4.05) 5c (3 players)
Hero bets $2.50, MP1 calls $2.50, MP2 calls $2.50

River: ($11.55) 7h (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets $5.51 and is all-in, 2 folds

MP1 was a 36/6 call station over 67 hands. Although have seen him limp with AK before. Was my fold alright here, I think most of the time we are behind? Also should I have 4bet more/shoved flop?
 
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I'd 4bet all in on the flop. I like the lead out, and am thrilled to get reraised and cold-calls, since that happens so rarely when you're in the bb. Sets are calling obviously, but you're a huge favorite over them. River's a fold, he's shoving into 3 other players. I don't think he'd even do this with the same hand as he'd certainly come over the top of your reraise on the flop.

From the results-oriented perspective, it turned out well because someone most likely turned a full house (and definitely on the river), but the majority of the time you'd shove and take down a huge pot. The dream scenario is that they both have sets, which cuts their boat outs. But your raw equity advantage is more than good enough.
 
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after both villains reraised the flop, hero could pushed all chips in

unfortunately turn and river played against hero and although could still won (or at least tied) the cards on board made it too risky,

villain limps AK but what about any othe pair?

and also why he didnt 5bet after the flop?? if had 77, 55 or 33 MP1 had not allowed any other free card for the straight, right? so maybe MP1 was trying to bluff (perhaps was AK again)

my move: pay, very likely villain was bluffing at least 50%
 
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MP isn't bluff shoving into all 3 other players. Hero checked, maybe he could be planning a check-raise from his perspective, plus there's still two other players to act behind him. He just has the 7.
 
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Raise more on the flop (i would say around 2 bucks since we are up against 2 players) so that the pot size is a lot bigger and then just shove the turn.

The way you played it - folding the river is the right play as one of them is likely to have a five or seven which we cannot beat.
 
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XR the turn.

XR turn is bad. We get checked through from hands that will call a bet and we get snapped off by hands that have us dead.

Bet more OTF, then more when we get raised.


Lol @ guy that said 4 bet all in (firstly it's a 3 bet not a 4 bet) so we raise from 0.40 to 10.00?
 
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XR turn is bad. We get checked through from hands that will call a bet and we get snapped off by hands that have us dead.

Bet more OTF, then more when we get raised.


Lol @ guy that said 4 bet all in (firstly it's a 3 bet not a 4 bet) so we raise from 0.40 to 10.00?

We want to maximise our fold equity and protect our flopped straight vs those diamond draws.;)
 
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We want to maximise our fold equity and protect our flopped straight vs those diamond draws.;)

i think just raising more is better on flop rather than shove and accomplishes the same thing without risking our entire stack/ ending the hand right here.
players more likely to call a slightly higher raise than a shove, and then we can better evaluate our play on later streets
 
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bet bigger otf, 3b bigger otf, closer to 1.60/1.75/2$ area. Lead turn bigger too imo. As played, have to c/f river.
 
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Okay I'd raise more to what deuceswild said. Didn't pay attention to this being $10NL and not $5NL. I'd figure someone has a set and is willing to get it in a big underdog.
 
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