$10 NLHE Full Ring: Flop the nut flush in 3bet pot; board pairs 2x's; facing river check/raise(AI)

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$10 NL HE Full Ring: Flop the nut flush in 3bet pot; board pairs 2x's; facing river check/raise(AI)

No significant stats on villian - Rush Poker FWIW.

full tilt poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players

UTG+2: $14.16
MP1: $15.52
Hero (MP2): $12.69
CO: $10.00
BTN: $4.57
SB: $8.60
BB: $7.65
UTG: $6.88
UTG+1: $11.08

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with A 6
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1, 5 folds, MP1 calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.45) K 5 2 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($2.45) 5 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.55, MP1 calls $1.55

River: ($5.55) 2 (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $5.55, MP1 raises to $11.10

Obviously, I'm priced in to call. But, how would you have played this if the stacks were say 300bb?
 
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If your 300bb deep I dont think you 3bet with A6s, by the way I dont think you do that with A6s when you have 120bb either so thats a pretty bad play preflop. A6 has the least amount of equity of any A, its the worst non straight making A.
That being said you flopped a monster in a 3bet pot BET THE FLOP- this should be true if you are deep or standard stacked.
This is literally the best flop you can get he may have a flush, he may have a K and he is folding neither here.
BET MORE ON THE TURN. Since you checked the flop now that your betting bet more, the board paired and now you have a vulnerable hand and you are going to be in a tough spot on the river if the pot is not big enough.

bet the flop, say 2.00 he calls. The turn pot is 6.45, you bet 4.00- if he calls you can easily shove the river, if he shoves the turn you can easily call. Lets make poker simpler for ourselves by committing chips while we have the nuts.
 
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I dont mind 3betting light at rush since people are so bad but i really hate the spot u picked.
I much rather be 3betting Btn vs Co with a large value range then 3betting A6s as a bluff against UTG+2.
-People have very tight EP range at rush.
-People call to many 3bets at rush(my experience) so i rather be 3betting a large value range to take advantage of people who cant fold KJ/A8 ect then 3betting a hand that is gonna be dominated alot when u flop TPNK.

As for the hand, i hate checking back the flop.
Almost all people are gonna be cbetting this board with there entier bluff range and there entier value range so checking back looks pretty supicouse imo(maybe not a problem at 10nl since villain probably sucks at hand reading).
Also there are so many action killer, if club hits where not geting much out of him.
So yeah i pot the flop.

As for how would you play it 300BB deep, pot flop, half pot turn and then fold to a river shove...
 
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As mentioned, your play pre and on the flop are pretty bad...UTG+2 has a range that crushes you here.

What was your plan if you bricked the flop? As played, fold to the river raise, his monster outran your luckbox monster.
 
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If you were deeper stacked, you have to get a bet in on the flop when villian checks, as you need to build the pot now. If he folds then you weren't getting much value here any way.

Id have bet the flop 100bb deep to as i want to build a pot with him thinking i have 1 club.

As played i can't see villian having KK here when he checks the flop and even less likely when he c/c the turn or a 2 or a 5.

I would say he thinks you have a Ac and missed your draw so he is value betting a K or a lower made flush.

If he has a full house then put it down to variance.
 
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I would have to say villain never has the FH here. If he had KK he would have 4bet preflop. Its possible he hit quad 5's or quad 2's, but I don't see that happening too often. I think your hand is pretty good here. There are only 3 hands that beat you. KK, 55, and 22. He never has 5X or 2X(well he might love his A2s or A5s hands just like you do, but we really can't put him on that).
 
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Bet the flop because if you don't get action on that flop, it's unlikely you're getting action later unless your opponent is hyper aggressive.
 
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Definitely gotta cbet that flop. On the river, I'd bet a lot smaller. I don't know if a king is paying you off here for a pot-sized bet. Even being "priced in", I think I'd still fold this.
 
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