$10 NLHE Full Ring: AKs 1st hand

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$10 NL HE Full Ring: AKs 1st hand

Very 1st hand playing NL10 (0.05/0.10) full ring and i'm delt AKs.


No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($5.82)
MP1 ($16.44)
MP2 ($12.51)
CO ($5.45)
Button ($7)
SB ($11.87)
Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($8.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A
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, K
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3 folds, MP2 bets $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises $1.65, MP2 calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.55) 4
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, 6
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, 9
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(2 players)
Hero bets $2.66, MP2 raises $10.76 (All -In), Hero???

Making the standard 3Bet + a lil bit more since im OOP. Then continued to make the cbet and villan shoves.

Whats villans range here? Pocketpairs (TT+), set (44,66,99). Would he call a 3Bet with a hand like A9, A6, 9x? Very lil chance villan is shove with worse (AQ,AJ,AT,KQ)?

Are u commited to sticking ur whole 100BB on the 1st hand w/ missed AK?
 
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I don't like cbetting that flop.

After he calls your 3bet preflop, I think you just have to ch/fol that flop. As played you have about 20% equity against his likely hands so it's a fold despite putting more than 1/3 of your stack in the pot.
 
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^^^I agree, he raised more than 3x pf, and called your 3 bet. I would def. put him on an overpair, and fold.
Unless he is a maniac, most 10nl players won't shove complete air, however there is the occasional idiot.
 
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I might be wrong here, but it sounds like u just sat down at any ol table and didn’t scope out ur competition.

if u had watched the table before playing, u woulda known players tendencies and known if that raiser was a rock or a maniac.

I don’t like the 3x bet raise. Id rather fold from what I know of the player or just shove.

With the 3x bet reraise and a normal continuation bet ur gonna be putting in something like $4-5 of ur original $10 that u started the hand with. lololololol.

U put ½ of ur money in the pot and u don’t have a clue where u are in the hand. lololol. With those stacks and that hand I woulda just shoved.

Im not a math person but its what Ak vs Kk is 30/70, ak vs lower ax is 75/25, ak vs pair is a coin flip.

as long as they don’t have aa ur ok. But the only way to know what they might have is if u know their tendencies.

Forget the 3x reraise and contintation bet there with those stacks. It’s a simple fold or shove to me.

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Mr Whatever said:
I might be wrong here, but it sounds like u just sat down at any ol table and didn’t scope out ur competition.

if u had watched the table before playing, u woulda known players tendencies and known if that raiser was a rock or a maniac.

I don’t like the 3x bet raise. Id rather fold from what I know of the player or just shove.

With the 3x bet reraise and a normal continuation bet ur gonna be putting in something like $4-5 of ur original $10 that u started the hand with. lololololol.

U put ½ of ur money in the pot and u don’t have a clue where u are in the hand. lololol. With those stacks and that hand I woulda just shoved.

Im not a math person but its what Ak vs Kk is 30/70, ak vs lower ax is 75/25, ak vs pair is a coin flip.

as long as they don’t have aa ur ok. But the only way to know what they might have is if u know their tendencies.

Forget the 3x reraise and contintation bet there with those stacks. It’s a simple fold or shove to me.

Gl.
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Ur correct that I didnt study my table apart from finding a table with high avg pot and a high plr/flp and more small stacks than full stacks.

I do like the idea of just shove AI over his 5xBB raise, just get it all in. Villan could of had QQ and I might of hit a A/K on turn & river.

There were no results as I whimped out and folded.

My bad but loosing $5 aint gonna hurt my BR but it is a leak that does need to be fixed.

Thanks for the replys guys!
 
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Hate the thought of shoving over his open. You're basically forcing his continuation range to be QQ+/maybe AK. That range crushes you and there isn't nearly enough dead money in the pot to make up for it. Your play preflop was fine imo. The bet postflop was where you ran into issues.
 
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WVHillbilly said:
Hate the thought of shoving over his open. You're basically forcing his continuation range to be QQ+/maybe AK. That range crushes you and there isn't nearly enough dead money in the pot to make up for it. Your play preflop was fine imo. The bet postflop was where you ran into issues.
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Smart thinking WV. Shoving $10 to win 0.50 + 0.05 and getting called by most likely QQ+/AK. Like u said the dead money is bit rubbish for the return.

THe postflop bet was my weak spot but I wanted to continue my aggression and hope to make hands like AQ/AJ/KQ fold. Altho I had no information about villan, i've seen NL10 n00bs call 3Bets w/ hands like JT/QJ/KQ/AQ/AJ. They all missed so most likely they would of folded to my cbet.

Guess not. Easy fold...
 
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ukaliks said:
Smart thinking WV. Shoving $10 to win 0.50 + 0.05 and getting called by most likely QQ+/AK. Like u said the dead money is bit rubbish for the return.

THe postflop bet was my weak spot but I wanted to continue my aggression and hope to make hands like AQ/AJ/KQ fold. Altho I had no information about villan, i've seen NL10 n00bs call 3Bets w/ hands like JT/QJ/KQ/AQ/AJ. They all missed so most likely they would of folded to my cbet.

Guess not. Easy fold...
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So you were trying to make him fold the hands you beat and continue with the ones you're behind???

Logic fail.
 
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ukaliks said:
Smart thinking WV. Shoving $10 to win 0.50 + 0.05 and getting called by most likely QQ+/AK. Like u said the dead money is bit rubbish for the return.

THe postflop bet was my weak spot but I wanted to continue my aggression and hope to make hands like AQ/AJ/KQ fold. Altho I had no information about villan, i've seen NL10 n00bs call 3Bets w/ hands like JT/QJ/KQ/AQ/AJ. They all missed so most likely they would of folded to my cbet.

Guess not. Easy fold...
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Also you're not going to get a whole of those hands to fold at 10nl when your oop.
I like your preflop play as well, cbetting here though is troublesome. 77+ is probably sticking around as are most overcards.
Shoving pre is not a good move.
 
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Mr Whatever said:
I might be wrong here, but it sounds like u just sat down at any ol table and didn’t scope out ur competition.

if u had watched the table before playing, u woulda known players tendencies and known if that raiser was a rock or a maniac.

I don’t like the 3x bet raise. Id rather fold from what I know of the player or just shove.

With the 3x bet reraise and a normal continuation bet ur gonna be putting in something like $4-5 of ur original $10 that u started the hand with. lololololol.

U put ½ of ur money in the pot and u don’t have a clue where u are in the hand. lololol. With those stacks and that hand I woulda just shoved.

Im not a math person but its what Ak vs Kk is 30/70, ak vs lower ax is 75/25, ak vs pair is a coin flip.

as long as they don’t have aa ur ok. But the only way to know what they might have is if u know their tendencies.

Forget the 3x reraise and contintation bet there with those stacks. It’s a simple fold or shove to me.

Gl.
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First wtf is this shit? lololol.


ukaliks said:
Smart thinking WV. Shoving $10 to win 0.50 + 0.05 and getting called by most likely QQ+/AK. Like u said the dead money is bit rubbish for the return.

THe postflop bet was my weak spot but I wanted to continue my aggression and hope to make hands like AQ/AJ/KQ fold. Altho I had no information about villan, i've seen NL10 n00bs call 3Bets w/ hands like JT/QJ/KQ/AQ/AJ. They all missed so most likely they would of folded to my cbet.

Guess not. Easy fold...
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WVHillbilly said:
So you were trying to make him fold the hands you beat and continue with the ones you're behind???

Logic fail.
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Lol yeah this is a very common thought process, one I used to have. It's very bad and once you look at WV's comment you'll realise that. It's the most fundamental rule of poker. You want them in the hand if you're beating them and out of it if you're not. Disregarding them having sizeable equity against you etc.

EDIT: Oh yeah, don't c-bet that flop, you're range is weak and his is strong, he folds overcards (you have the best 2 of them) and continues with overpairs. check/fold and try to see the turn to bink one of your 6 outs.
 
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