$10 NLHE Full Ring: AKo OOP Full House on river

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888 Poker - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 153.6 BB (VPIP: 13.04, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, hands: 23)
MP+1: 202.5 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
CO: 82.6 BB (VPIP: 15.38, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 26)
BTN: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 26.51, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 11.54, Hands: 84)
SB: 190.3 BB (VPIP: 17.01, PFR: 10.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.14, Hands: 541)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 224.7 BB (VPIP: 8.70, PFR: 4.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 23)
UTG+1: 162.7 BB (VPIP: 10.84, PFR: 6.40, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 207)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: K:heart:

fold, UTG+1 raises to 4 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 8 BB

Flop: (28.5 BB, 2 players) K:spade: 2:club: 2:diamond:
Hero bets 18.2 BB, MP+1 calls 18.2 BB

Turn: (64.9 BB, 2 players) K:club:
Hero bets 32.4 BB

Checking turn or is this okay? Feel like he's not calling anything but a full house or quads when I bet this.

Edit: And larger preflop - still getting used to moving up
 
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I understand the stats somewhat on V. What I'm getting is this guy is a nit.


If that is indeed the case, I don't like the 3b preflop here. What do we do if this dude with 10% vpip 4b us? We just GII then? Dont like it.

However, as played, I like the flop c-bet, but the turn is a check. He can't call with anything (if he's thinking about it), so we need to give him room to make a mistake (like betting a PP here). Even if he checks back, we can bet small OTR, and it will look fishy....
 
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Yep, flat pre to keep UTG + 1's range as wide as possible. He has a 6% PFR, but most likely is only opening 2-4% from UTG +1. Flat pre to keep fish in too. As played, check turn to induce some bluffs or to get extra value on the river. You can rep AA/QQ/JJ or air like AQs, and he can call lighter. You have almost no bluffs when you barrel this turn.
 
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I understand the stats somewhat on V. What I'm getting is this guy is a nit.

I'm reading villain as more of a calling station. Although his sample size is only 8 hands. He has limped/called all 8 of those hands preflip and did not raise.

I like the 3 bet. Although flat would be fine too. I like just barreling through all 3 streets unless villain raises you, which would be a major red flag.

On second thought, utg+1 is a nit, so maybe 3bet is questionable I still don't think its terrible. Isn't AKo like the 6th or 7th best starting hand?
 
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I like 3b squeeze and size. If I was playing well I'd fold to 4b from this guy if my image was normal. Bet less on flop, 1/2 pot is good and bet turn is good. I doubt this guys floating with AQ to bluff turn. let him call down with JJ, nh
 
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I'm reading villain as more of a calling station. Although his sample size is only 8 hands. He has limped/called all 8 of those hands preflip and did not raise.

I like the 3 bet. Although flat would be fine too. I like just barreling through all 3 streets unless villain raises you, which would be a major red flag.

On second thought, utg+1 is a nit, so maybe 3bet is questionable I still don't think its terrible. Isn't AKo like the 6th or 7th best starting hand?


No I'm talking about the PFR, UTG+1
 
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No I'm talking about the PFR, UTG+1

When you said villain I assumed you meant the villain who saw the flop with us. I edited and added the last sentence or two when I realized you might have meant utg+1
 
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When you said villain I assumed you meant the villain who saw the flop with us. I edited and added the last sentence or two when I realized you might have meant utg+1


Yeah I missed that part. I think against UTG+1, we just flat, not 3b.
 
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Yea I completely missed that. Something I generally need to pay more attention to.
 
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Pre flop I prefer to flat for two reasons; firstly if the nit utg 4bets I'm very unhappy to either stack off or flat oop against his range and secondly to keep in the fish. I don't see the point of 3betting and folding a hand like AK so just flat everything you aren't willing to gii with pre.
As played he appears to be a passive calling fish so just bet bet bet. If he was at all aggressive I'd go for a check raise all in on the turn. It's good to check the nuts on the turn oop every now and then.
 
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with his stat just flat pre, check turn & river to induce bluff & re raise all in :)
 
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3-bet pre is good. You're mostly looking to push UTG+1 out and get heads up with the fish. It's the standard preferable play in these spots because you can get away from your hand if UTG+1 is strong, but if not, he's a nit and will fold the rest of his range. Most importantly, the fish will still call, because that's what fish do (and that's what actually happened no what I re-read the hand lol) and then you don't have to play OOP against 2 players. I don't hate a call pre-flop, but really it's very standard to try and ISO the bad player here by squeezing.

As played on the turn vs the nit, bet small or check is preferable.
 
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