$10 NLHE Full Ring: AA on the button with an ugly board

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full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 3 players
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Hero (BTN): $10.25
SB: $7.49
BB: $22.82

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with A:club: A:spade:
Hero raises to $0.30, BB raises to $0.90, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.85) J:heart: Q:heart: J:club: (3 players)
BB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.45) 8:club: (3 players)
BB bets $1.12, Hero raises to $2.24, BB calls $1.12

River: ($7.93) 9:spade: (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

You might say I played this hand the worst way I possibly could but let me explain my thinking here. THIS IS RUSH POKER btw.

When I face the re-raise pre-flop I think it's a pretty simple decision for me to flat call here because some players like to re-raise every time they are in the blinds against a button raiser, especially in rush, therefore its a 50-50 on whether or not he even has a good hand or not.

The flop comes pretty ugly with a Q J J and two hearts, he puts out a bet that looks a lot like a continuation bet after the attempted re-steal OR a small bet looking like a steal with a jack. I decide to call, although many people disagree with this play, because if he is just c-betting I want to keep him in and if he does have a jack I want to play it cautiously.

The turn comes and the 8 of clubs brings two flush draws and not a pretty board at all. He comes out with a very weak bet and it looks a lot to me like either he has 10 9 and I let him get there, or QJ and he's looking for a raise, or my AA is simply best. I decide to throw out a tester min-raise and he just calls. At this point I have no clue what he has anymore and I find that I didn't play this hand well. The 9 comes on the river, he checks and I obviously check behind.

Thoughts on this hand? What should I have done on every street? Does ANYONE think I played this well?! :D :confused:
 
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I think you played it spot on ..with the cards that came on the board..:cool:
 
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4bet preflop unless you know he 3bet/folds a lot from the blinds. It's BTN vs blind and a lot of people are willing to stack lighter in those spots.
 
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4bet preflop unless you know he 3bet/folds a lot from the blinds. It's BTN vs blind and a lot of people are willing to stack lighter in those spots.

Very true but I love the fact I get to verse a guy who is, almost guaranteed, going to c-bet into me and is out of position against me. I thought about 4betting here though, and in this particular case it probably would have been very effective.
 
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True if he folds when 4bet you lost equity. He made like $3.97 on the pot good score//
4bet preflop unless you know he 3bet/folds a lot from the blinds. It's BTN vs blind and a lot of people are willing to stack lighter in those spots.
 
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Slow playing is bad bad bad. Looking to win a couple of 1/2 pot cbets or just one cbet usually when you flat. If you do get stacks in with AA post flop you will lose many times, probably most times vs non-maniacs, unless it's versus a big overpair that would have gotten it in pre anyway so it doesn't matter.

You lose tons of value from say QQ when a K or A hits, or AK when it misses. The times you get it in pre more than compensate for the times he folds to your 4-bet.

Also, as played : if you're going to raise the turn raise it big. If you think you're ahead of his calling range he's not going to call $2 but fold to $4-$5 on that board.
 
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Slow playing is bad bad bad. Looking to win a couple of 1/2 pot cbets or just one cbet usually when you flat. If you do get stacks in with AA post flop you will lose many times, probably most times vs non-maniacs, unless it's versus a big overpair that would have gotten it in pre anyway so it doesn't matter.

You lose tons of value from say QQ when a K or A hits, or AK when it misses. The times you get it in pre more than compensate for the times he folds to your 4-bet.

This.

AA coolers tons of hands, we want the money in before he either improves or gets scared. Just 4bet pf. There should be pretty much no situations at the micros in which you flat a 3bet with AA.
 
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Slow playing is bad bad bad. Looking to win a couple of 1/2 pot cbets or just one cbet usually when you flat. If you do get stacks in with AA post flop you will lose many times, probably most times vs non-maniacs, unless it's versus a big overpair that would have gotten it in pre anyway so it doesn't matter.

You lose tons of value from say QQ when a K or A hits, or AK when it misses. The times you get it in pre more than compensate for the times he folds to your 4-bet.

Also, as played : if you're going to raise the turn raise it big. If you think you're ahead of his calling range he's not going to call $2 but fold to $4-$5 on that board.

Makes a lot of sense, i'll definitely take this advice.

Now on the turn, I don't want to raise big because i'll be committed and am suspecting he could have a jack or 10 9. The raise was a feeler raise, if he pushes after that I muck.
 
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This.

AA coolers tons of hands, we want the money in before he either improves or gets scared. Just 4bet pf. There should be pretty much no situations at the micros in which you flat a 3bet with AA.

The only one I can think of is against the maniac bluffer that will double/triple barrel air. Probably it's more +EV to flat in that spot, but still you need position to do that
 
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Makes a lot of sense, i'll definitely take this advice.

Now on the turn, I don't want to raise big because i'll be committed and am suspecting he could have a jack or 10 9. The raise was a feeler raise, if he pushes after that I muck.

I'm glad you're taking advices :)

Feelers are not a reason to bet/raise if you want to make money. Read this
 
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