$10 NLHE Full Ring: 99 on the BTN vs UTG raiser

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

MP2 ($3.95)
MP3 ($10.79)
CO ($11.65)
Hero (Button) ($10.10)
SB ($3.55)
BB ($11.24)
UTG ($8.32)
UTG+1 ($10.34)
MP1 ($11.43)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 , 9
2 folds, MP1 bets $0.30, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.05) 8 , 8 , 4 (3 players)
MP1 bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.85) A (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.85) 7 (2 players)
MP1 bets $1.20, Hero folds

Total pot: $1.85 | Rake: $0.09

preflop: i think its a standart call

flop: now this is my problem...should i reraise, call or fold?
he bet out against 2 opponents and oop and this is a very strong move.
i decide to call and see what he will he do on the turn.

turn: thats the worst possible card that i could see it fits to his range, but the check on the turn make me wonder if its a trap to let me bet or he is really scare for him too. I think i do the worst move here on the turn with my check.

river: i think that he is value betting so i decide to give up my hand


how would you play my hand, what could i do to play it better? i'm waiting for your opinions!!!

also i forgot i didn't give so much importance to his stats because its only 29 hands

I raise to $1.10 on the flop.As played i check turn,fold river as well.

I think you played it fine.

Raising flop is over repping your hand way too much. You basically only get called by better, and build a huge pot in the process with a marginal hand.

Agreed that this is my standard line, though I sometimes bet turn small to get thin value and buy myself a cheap showdown.

Bet the turn as a bluff.

I like that if you plan on firing river, and large too, but you're never getting TT-KK (or better, lol) to fold on just the turn.

I prefer bet/fold turn and just give up if he bets on the river.

it could be a cbet w overs so raising flop to take it down ip is always gonna be fine. when he c the A on the turn it could mean he cbet A high and now c the turn since he has showdown value and thinks he can get more value on the river from small pp's like 99s... less likely is the case where he could have a an over p on the flop and think the A is scare card, then be value betting river. In this case most players would then c the river or atleast bet alot smaller than he did. Therefore we can assume he was cbetting an A or pp bigger than 99s and so unless he was bluffing you made the correct decision. Good Fold TakMits!

Just read what MudWar wrote and realised I read it wrong I thought the ace was on the river and 7 was on the turn so I much prefer how you played this to what I said.

I don't think raising the flop is gonna do anything but build a big pot for a not so big hand.
I would have bet the turn, the A might be a scare card for him too. If he raises then fold, if he calls turn and bets out river than just fold.

I thought you played it ok, but i've been persuaded by people ITT that betting the turn is good and it seems to make sense.

ChuckTs said:

Raising flop is over repping your hand way too much. You basically only get called by better, and build a huge pot in the process with a marginal hand.

Agreed that this is my standard line, though I sometimes bet turn small to get thin value and buy myself a cheap showdown.

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If i have not seen hands like 33-77 and even A10o-AKs call a flop raise on a similar board so often.Therefore i think you can get value from raising the flop at these limits.

Vs a fish who calls AT+ every time to a flop raise, then a value raise can be fine in a vacuum. I don't agree with that range though - you can definitely say you've seen people call ATo to a flop raise here, but to say they do it so often to actually include it in a pokerstove calculation is going too far imo.

Maybe he calls all those hands like %25 of the time, or to put it differently (ie in a way we can more easily use with pokerstove), he calls %100 with AK and %0 with AT-AQ. That gives us almost exactly %50 equity. Vs AT+/33+ we have %60 equity...

But then we have the issue of our PSR and inflection points. Even if he calls %100 of the time with AT+/33+...how does he play them on the turn/river? We essentially commit him with a flop raise; if we raise to like $1.40 on the flop, that's a $3.80 pot on the turn with like 8.50 behind. If we bet the turn, we're committed to calling a shove.

So in order to raise the flop we have to think about commitment and how far villain is willing to go with the hands we're value betting against.

Against a reg, the clear play is to flat. Not only because raising is thinner on the flop, but because they'll play better overall by trapping with big hands, sometimes 3bet bluffing us off the best hand (although doubtful at 10nl), and finally our overall range should be relatively balanced - I'm basically never raising anything on this board vs a reg. Flat my big hands to protect my weaker flatting range (which includes 99-/AK/AQ etc) and my floats.

Raising flop here is horrible. Chuck explains why pretty well; we should be floating here A LOT. I would not raise anything other than maybe quads or 44 on the flop and I'd probably call with like 100% of whatever I called with pre.

I don't see the need to turn a hand with tons of SDV into a bluff. If you had nothing, sure go for it.