$10 NLHE Full Ring: 97s oop

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- $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem (9 players)
SB: $9.90
BB: $10
UTG: $10
UTG+1: $6.73
MP: $12.79 VPIP 72% PFR 8% AGG 6.6 HANDS 92 FISHHHHH
MP+1: $10 (sitting out)
MP+2 Hero: $12.72
CO: $13.50
BTN: $7.79 VPIP 39% PFR 21 AGG 2.3 HANDS 39

Pre-flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP+2 and dealt :9d4: :7d4:
2 folds, MP calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.45, CO folds, BTN calls $0.45, SB calls $0.40, BB folds, MP calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.90) :7c4: :kd4: :5c4: (5 players)
SB checks, MP bets $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, BTN raises to $0.70, SB folds, MP calls $0.35, Hero calls $0.35

Turn: ($4) :7c4: :kd4: :5c4: :8d4: (4 players)
MP checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $2, MP folds, Hero oop? with gutshot, and flushdraw , should we just lay down this hand ??
 
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Fold preflop! Yeah MP player is VERY bad BUT he's also aggro and you're going to end up in a ton of shit spots with nothing/middle pair where he check/raises you off your hand postflop.

As played don't call the flop.

As played on the flop, you'll likely get his stack on the river with a straight or flush so don't fold now.
 
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Who is the fourth player on the turn?

Call turn for sure, shove on 9,7,6, diamond or club river.
 
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Ahhh. Why no questions about the missing 5th player on the flop then? Must be a conversion issue imo.
 
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Only 3 players on turn not sur why it says that??
 
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Yes fold pre don't try to iso a player with vpip of 72 and agg over 6 with 9 high lol.
 
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No no, this iso is great. You can never go wrong with a hand that has a 7 and a 9 in it. And when you have both of those cards...

Seriously, this is a fairly standard open especially having position on the fish. As played it seems like a spot for some math on the turn. I'm terrible at math so I usually just call here. It seems like we have a kazillion outs so I'm not folding. Although, him not having a full stack does kind of suck.

Just get your pot odds, 3 to 1, quickly try to determine your equity versus his range and factor in whatever he has left behind.
 
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ya, I think ISOing vs. a loose (not this loose) passive player would be OK but there are a lot of people behind us and this guy seems like he'll be playing back quite a bit.
 
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Yeah to get his AF that high being so passive preflop he must be going bat shit crazy postflop.
 
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^this. Not to mention we would probably not have position in the hand since we have an idiot behind us
 
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^this. Not to mention we would probably not have position in the hand since we have an idiot behind us

I feel i'm a better player than both of them so if they both call it's more money for me when they make mistakes.. But yea i was trying to Iso the FEESH
 
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Playing suited connectors is hard when you're OOP which is what you ate going to be most of the time with that kind of player behind you(unless he likes to fold a ton)
 
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14 outs (9 for flush, 3 for straight, 2 for trips). 14/46*100 = 30.43%. getting 3/1 so only need 25% equity for a call. Without even considering implied odds or putitng air in his range it's a call and not even close.

Why are you even considering laying it down?
 
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14 outs (9 for flush, 3 for straight, 2 for trips). 14/46*100 = 30.43%. getting 3/1 so only need 25% equity for a call. Without even considering implied odds or putitng air in his range it's a call and not even close.

Why are you even considering laying it down?
Because he wants to make sure he makes a mistake on every street??? :)
 
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I would have folded this hand pre or on the flop. But you have the odds to call at the river.

Sorry to hjijack but can someone check my analysis if we were only chasing a flush here.

Chance of a diamond on turn is (9/47)*100 = 19.1%

Chance of a diamond on the river if we got one on the turn is (8/46)*100 = 17.4%

Therefore chance of a flush is 19.1% * 17.4% = 0.0333 so 3%.

Seems awfully low so I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything huge.
 
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I would have folded this hand pre or on the flop. But you have the odds to call at the river.

Sorry to hjijack but can someone check my analysis if we were only chasing a flush here.

Chance of a diamond on turn is (9/47)*100 = 19.1%

Chance of a diamond on the river if we got one on the turn is (8/46)*100 = 17.4%

Therefore chance of a flush is 19.1% * 17.4% = 0.0333 so 3%.

Seems awfully low so I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything huge.

Yes that's correct.
 
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like little John from the Dave Chappelle show WHAT!!!

Hmm, I love the Dave Chappelle show, seen tons of em. Don't recognize the reference though. Youtube link?
 
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I would have folded this hand pre or on the flop. But you have the odds to call at the river.

Sorry to hjijack but can someone check my analysis if we were only chasing a flush here.

Chance of a diamond on turn is (9/47)*100 = 19.1%

Chance of a diamond on the river if we got one on the turn is (8/46)*100 = 17.4%

Therefore chance of a flush is 19.1% * 17.4% = 0.0333 so 3%.

Seems awfully low so I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything huge.

there are 2 flushes you can represent.
 
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