$10 NLHE Full Ring: 2-handed: planned extended float on drawy board

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pat3392

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poker stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): $10.00
BB: $10.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN/SB with 9
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Q
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Hero raises to $0.35, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.70) 8
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6
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4
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(2 players)
BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.70) 5
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BB bets $0.86, Hero calls $0.86

River: ($3.42) A
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BB bets $1.34, Hero raises to $3, BB folds

When he donks here he can have a few things:

bluff: I didn't expect him to have many bluffs here as why wouldn't he gain an extra bet and look stronger with a check-raise?

2-pair: I didn't think he'd have 2-pair as why would he flat with 86/84/64? He didn't seem like a spastic. He could conceivably flat with low suited gappers, but the only combos for that are clubs and diamonds, not a lot.

Set: perhaps, people like donking when they hit a set and this is a decent board to do it on. Not sure if people generally like check-raising or donking with sets

Over-pair: Perhaps

Some sort of pair: Maybe something like K8/Q6/55. Now that I think about it this makes a lot of sense. I didn't consider this at the time =/

Flush/Straight draw:


I studiedly didn't consider the 1 pair at the time of the hand, so figured I'd call flop/turn and raise river, assuming the draws missed. Not sure if since he has pairs if this play is any good. I was thinking of raising the flop, but that creates some awkward spots. I can't just ship the turn and he may do something aggressive with his draw which would make it an awfully difficult spot.

I'm a SnG player and make these kind of moves everynow and then. I usually min-raise when I do this though and it works because we're usually much shallower. Last time I did this at cash villain snapped me of with his A high missed flush...... So I thought I'd better go a tad bit more with the raise.

Anyway, thoughts?
 
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Don't like floating with Queen high. Ace high or even King high will win you some SDs but Queen high rarely will. Also if you're going to float twice you should be betting/raising when any draw hits on the river (you said you planned to raise if the draws missed) because your hand looks like a draw so betting when the draw hits makes sense but you will get snapped off a lot if you bet when all the draws miss (why I like having a A or K to fall back on when I have to check back a blank river).
 
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Great post

So I guess considering all that this should be a fold?
 
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Yeah, I think you can just fold the flop most of the time here. Raising the river isn't horrible as played when the Ace hits since you could certainly have the As in your range.
 
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I like your thinking but why not raise the turn? It looks really strong on a 4 to straight board and your line makes a lot more sense. Yes he may call with the FD but then you can barrel again low on the river if he checks and no spade comes.

In the future, just make sure someone is bluffy enough before you do these kinds of plays.
 
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I like your thinking but why not raise the turn? It looks really strong on a 4 to straight board and your line makes a lot more sense. Yes he may call with the FD but then you can barrel again low on the river if he checks and no spade comes.

In the future, just make sure someone is bluffy enough before you do these kinds of plays.

hmmm I didn't think of that at the time
 
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