$10 NLHE Full Ring: 10NL what to bet on river with the second nuts???

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okkk so...this is thte hand i think i messed up the mmsot going through my sessions.

im looking for critisism and how you would play the turn here.

thanks.

villains stats are 19/8 over 85 hands.

poker stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1022322
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CO: $13.30
Hero (BTN): $28.62
SB: $33.41
BB: $24.29
UTG: $24.96
UTG+1: $25.13
UTG+2: $9.84
MP1: $19.84
MP2: $24.09

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J :club: Q :club:
4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) T :spade: 2 :club: 9 :spade: (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($3.35) 8 :diamond: (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $1.20, Hero raises to $3.75, BB folds, MP2 calls $2.55

River: ($10.85) J :heart: (2 players)
MP2 checks....hero...?????????????
 
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forgot to add...hero??????????
 
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raise to at least ~$7.00, we wanna play for stacks here and being this deep, the only way to do so is to raise pot. If he folds so be it, he wasn't gonna call a smaller bet anyway. But he'll stack with all overpairs and sets I'd imagine, so you gotta raise for value.

I'm also not sure about the flop call since some of our outs are dirty, but I don't think I hate it. Maybe someone else can comment more on it.
 
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omg...i meant to put the river on here...FFS hold on


ok....refresh the page than gimme ur addviece...sorrry lil tipsy
 
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lol Brian

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i think i play this hand perfectly till the river...
 
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yup, definitely raise the turn more. That way your river bet can be bigger, you're really really robbing yourself of value that way.

As played I think ~$8.00 is fine? We're also calling any shove imo, he has KQ here basically never.
 
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yup, definitely raise the turn more. That way your river bet can be bigger, you're really really robbing yourself of value that way.

As played I think ~$8.00 is fine?

ok wait...so he bets 1.20 on the turn...and you think i should do more than 3-bet him? just makin sure i gotcha correctly
 
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ok wait...so he bets 1.20 on the turn...and you think i should do more than 3-bet him? just makin sure i gotcha correctly

What? You're not 3-betting him. Maybe you mean raise 3x his bet, but yeah, don't do that. His bet is really small compared to the pot, so raising 3x his bet doesn't really mean anything.
 
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haha...ok...kinda makesss sense now lookin back on it...heat of the moment i shoulda realized it...any chance u can change trhread title to what ot bet on the river
 
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haha...ok...kinda makesss sense now lookin back on it...heat of the moment i shoulda realized it...any chance u can change trhread title to what ot bet on the river

Done!
 
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cj....KQ is the nuts lol...change to just what to be tooon on the river puuuhhhpleasee
 
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BUMP.

gonna go pass out now..hopefully get a couple more responses on this jus to hear more feedback...night
 
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Raising the flop here seen as your both deep stacked is another way I would have played it. His bet on the flop is just to small for the potential of your hand against a villain we presume quite tight.

Seen as were deep stack I can't see him re raising you on the flop with a draw or made hand I.e two pair or set. This way hopefully you'll get the lead on the turn if you miss foe a free card and you have a bigger pot if you hit.
 
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4 cards to a straight on the board and odds are he doesn't have the nut straight because he would definitely bet the river. from how he played it i think he is on a 10 and he won't call a big bet, in fact, he might also fold to a small bet. i would try 3$ bet on the river.

i don't understand why would you say 8$, it only gets called by the split or the nuts. the way villain is playing, i hardly believe you can extract anything more on this river, i would be happy with 2-3$.
 
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ok wait...so he bets 1.20 on the turn...and you think i should do more than 3-bet him? just makin sure i gotcha correctly

Definately raise the turn bigger.

Usually you would be correct to raise in the order of 3x but this makes it difficult to get stacks in on the river. The reason is his bet is 1/3 pot. If his raise was bigger then 3x would be fine.
 
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thanks for the feedback. heres rezultzzz

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1033164
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $13.30
Hero (BTN): $28.62
SB: $33.41
BB: $24.29
UTG: $24.96
UTG+1: $25.13
UTG+2: $9.84
MP1: $19.84
MP2: $24.09

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with J :club: Q :club:
4 folds, MP2 raises to $0.40, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) T :spade: 2 :club: 9 :spade: (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, BB calls $0.70

Turn: ($3.35) 8 :diamond: (3 players)
BB checks, MP2 bets $1.20, Hero raises to $3.75, BB folds, MP2 calls $2.55

River: ($10.85) J :heart: (2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $3.95, MP2 calls $3.95

Final Pot: $18.75
Hero shows J :club: Q :club:
MP2 mucks J :spade: J :diamond:
Hero wins $18.02
(Rake: $0.73)
 
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yup, bet more on the river, if you like money :D
 
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