$10 NLHE 6-max: What Pot Odds Do You Need To Call The River

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The situation is very typical. I'm in position and raising a Loose/Passive limper for value.

My hand: AQo

UTG Villain Limps

Hero on Button Raises to 4x the BB.

BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop 10 6 10

BB and UTG both check

Hero C bets...BB folds...UTG calls

Turn is an Ace. Nothing out of the ordinary as far as suited cards. UTG checks. Hero bets for value (i bet a ton here against this type of opponent.) Villain calls.

River is a brick. Villain bets half the pot giving me 2 to 1 pot odds. Villain does not bet often. I feel like I'm either way ahead or way behind. Villain seems like he either has a 10 in his hand or any ace smaller than AQ.

I called this particular time and really think it was wrong being offered 2:1 considering a loose passive fish type player rarely bluffs here.

So again....what pot odds (if any) do you need to call the river bet?
 
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Hi. When the villain bet half-pot on the river he gave you 3 to 1 pot odds to call. That means you need to win 25% of the time in that situation to break even. If you think there is better than a 25% chance you are ahead you should call.

In this particular situation with the information you provided I may find a fold. Unless you've been bluffing a lot you'd think that the turn bet would lead him to believe that you had a strong hand. If you haven't seen him bluff before I would probably come to the conclusion that it's unlikely he'd choose to bluff on a bricked river after you showed strength on an Ace High turn. It would seem to me more likely he's value betting on the river knowing you definitely have good Aces in your range and may be likely to call a donk river lead.
 
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I don't like how you played this hand at all. Pre is fine.

Now Post Flop: How do you exploit a loose passive fish post flop? BET FOR VALUE.

What are you doing betting this flop into 2 opponents (at least 1 loose passive with no pair)? Control the pot we and your opponents ranges we have essentially air at this point, take the free card!

Turn comes, great we made our card, if you had checked the flop and UTG loose passive leads into you you can call, if not it's an easy bet. If he bets turn and then fires again river you can be pretty sure he was trying to slow play a 10 and could wait no longer on the turn. He probably won't go bet bet with a weak ace.

As played, the pot odds are too good, you have to call the river, and he's probably showing you a random j10 or something every time.
 
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Hi. When the villain bet half-pot on the river he gave you 3 to 1 pot odds to call. That means you need to win 25% of the time in that situation to break even. If you think there is better than a 25% chance you are ahead you should call.

These are the correct pot odds.

I think as played I would make a crying call, but I think our hand is pretty clearly a pair of aces at least so this bet looks strong.

I'm not a fan of c-betting on boards like this though, that makes our hand a bluff, but we are likely ahead of most of villians range if we just check behind. There aren't a lot of draws out there for people to continue with, so if we get called we aren't happy about it. I would just check behind and take a free card in position. I also don't want to grow this pot too much 3 handed when I have ace high on the flop.

Villian puts us in a pretty weird spot. Call call bet is such a strong looking line, its hard not to give him credit for a set or some kind of full house, but somehow I could see this being Ax which we beat, and he's trying to price his own showdown. We have pretty good pot odds, so as above I think I make a crying call here. If we had a read that might help us here.

I assume we lost this hand or you wouldn't be asking?
 
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C-bet MW on this flop is fine. Hard to read board texture though w/o suits. You saw nothing out of the ordinary, not sure what that means.

As played, You have to call. If you bet the turn for value in that spot, and the river bricks, then nothing changed. Your opponent now lops a bet at you. He could very well, and likely will have Tx or better most of the time. But getting 3:1 in this spot, you're calling for the times he makes some dumb bluff with something like 78 or a weaker ace, or even 6x. What odds do you need in this spot, depend on too many factors to give a general answer. The best thing to do is punch in someone's river range and look at the odds you're getting. If you have the equity, then it should be a call.
 
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