$10 NLHE 6-max: wet board multiway, nasty turn

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$10 NL HE 6-max: wet board multiway, nasty turn

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No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (MP) ($11.35)
CO ($10.70)
Button ($22.45)
SB ($4.35)
BB ($8)
UTG ($11.55)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10
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, 10
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1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, Button calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) 5
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, 6
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, 8
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(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, Button calls $1.10, SB calls $1.10, 1 fold

Turn: ($4.50) 4
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $2, 1 fold, Hero ??
 
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I think fold, but you call higher preflop 5BB.
4 player add your 0,30 raise not good. Too many way on board 4 player!
Your hand was the great preflop and you lost, many players your chance is lower.
 
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Fold. Pair of tens is not good enought in my opinion, too many players. Someone got the lucky 7.
 
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With so many people seeing the flop... maybe a slightly smaller c-bet.

smaller because you dont have the hand, and are likely to be called by at least 1-2 players. So the pot sized bet wont really fold everyone out.

Sure you want to bet and to charge draws.. but with so many in the pot... if its called you have to firmly put them on the draw.

So a 1/2 pot bet is probably as good as a pot bet in deciding if anyone is on the draw.
 
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thanks stu. I did fold, and honestly that part i didnt really worry about because i couldnt honestly think of anything worse that would call. The problem after i thought about it was really is it worth betting at all? i knew i wanted to charge draws, but really what card comes that i actually like besides a 10?

i saw a spot alot like this in one of FP's vids where chuck was sweating and it didnt make sense when FP laid down 9's to a similar board but now that i've been there I understand it better.
 
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Alternatively you could check it...

That could work.

If you check, then its likely someone else will have a stab at it.... you can then see what happens.

If the Button raises, this could easily be a bluff.. but if the SB and BB call then charging the draw is costing a fair bit of your stack.. making for an easy fold.

With the turn completing a straight draw.. and so many overcards out there its more likely that any bet on the turn is with a lesser hand.. so the fold there is great.

But now i'm starting to think that with so many people in the hand, the button is more prone to do your charging for you.

When it comes back to you.. you probably wont want to bet, so maybe a check here is better???
 
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Looking at it some more.. this is quite interesting but there are no re-raises preflop. So you can pretty much exclude AA-JJ AK AQ from the holdings. If there pairs for hole cards then the distribution is being pressed right down. More likely now that there is also a set out there.

As a sets should be fearing both flush and straight draws, SB and BB therefore prob dont have sets, but are quick to draw so should def be on A7,A9,77,44,99, maybe a few suited gappers (all of those hands are def in their range of calling not raising pre) The pairs are more likely because they are OOP next round but playing them for sets.

The BB, it could be a steal, but also easily a semi bluff with any of those hands A7 being the least likely + 55 66 88 would really just be him protecting his hand.

Once the first bet is made and everyone else calls... TT can not be favourite but I would be surprised if there were a higher pair out there.
 
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