$10 NLHE 6-max: Can We fold here????

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PokerBrat010

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$10 NL HE 6-max: Can We fold here????

Villian Stats (VPIP/PFR/AF): 50/13/6

well at the table with some......(not very good player)
and im wondering can i fold at any time

This is 2nds before my current hand

full tilt poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 498538
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

TonytheHead (SB): $10.47
Graho_de (BB): $6.87
jvoller1515 (UTG): $10.50
Hero (CO): $7.25
Hondavod (BTN): $7.47

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with 2 8
2 folds, Hondavod raises to $0.20, TonytheHead calls $0.15, Graho_de calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60) 4 2 A (3 players)
TonytheHead checks, Graho_de bets $0.30, Hondavod calls $0.30, TonytheHead folds

Turn: ($1.20) 5 (2 players)
Graho_de bets $0.60, Hondavod calls $0.60

River: ($2.40) J (2 players)
Graho_de bets $2.40, Hondavod calls $2.40

Final Pot: $7.20
Graho_de shows 3 A (a straight, Five high)
Hondavod mucks A Q
Graho_de wins $6.72
(Rake: $0.48)

now heres my hand

Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 498543
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

TonytheHead (CO): $10.27
Graho_de (BTN): $10.04
jvoller1515 (SB): $10.40
Hero (BB): $7.15
Hondavod (UTG): $4.32
Moize (MP): $5.90

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Q :diamond: A :spade:
Hondavod calls $0.10, Moize calls $0.10, 1 fold, Graho_de raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Graho_de calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.25) 7 :heart: A :heart: 2 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, Graho_de bets $0.62, Hero calls $0.62

Turn: ($2.49) T :spade: (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, Graho_de raises to $4.89, Hero raises to $6.03 all in, Graho_de calls $1.14

River: ($14.55) 9 :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $14.55
Graho_de shows A :diamond: K :spade: (a pair of Aces)
Hero shows Q :diamond: A :spade: (a pair of Aces)
Graho_de wins $13.58
(Rake: $0.97)

CAN I FOLD HERE TO THIS PLAYER??
I PUT HIS POKER tracker stats up to just in case
 
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3-bet larger preflop, and your turn play is really weird. But no, after you flop TP2K in a 3-bet pot vs. someone you obviously consider a fish, you cannot fold.
 
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Stats like those are dangerous when they start betting. Is this a hard hand to get away from? Undoubtedly. I lost Aq to Ak a few days ago in a heads up situation. It's a tough lay down. Hindsight is always 20/20 but from now on I'm definitely playing a little more cautiously with TPTP or TP2K when loose-passive players start betting.
 
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Ya 3bet 3 or 4x, and BALUGA THEOREM! On the turn C/r all in, RR all in, any of those usually means he has you beat, no matter how bad he is. Graho didnt necessarily play the first hand bad enough for you to go all in with AQ i think, because he had TP and a gutshot, and he only made 1 bet before hitting the straight. He set it up ok, half pot half pot and pot on river, he prolly could have shoved and gotten a call from AQ.

In your hand youre beating worse aces, and I dont think worse aces are going all in...youre just value betting them in a lot of cases.

In future hands, if you call flop, just call down the rest of the hand...AQ isnt THAT strong in huge BB pots.
hope this helped.
 
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disagree with that last statement, there certainly are players who will check raise the turn, not even knowing what they are doing... if the read on this guy is fish.. then his c/r to me is probably just another goofy play.. agreed, the way it was played i think checking the turn makes more sense. let him bluff off his chips to you if he likes.. def need to raise more preflop.. with two limpers also his preflop raise is genearlly strong, but again, your read was a fish but i think with his stats, if he had a marginal goofy hand he would jsut call not raise, so id respect it a little more..
 
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Bet-sizing is not very good. 3-bets should be a lot larger, especially out of position.

To answer your question, I probably can't fold as played.
 
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Please follow the HA posting guidelines.

I never fold but why not just go ahead and bet the flop after you 3bet pre?
 
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3bet pot, versus a fish, you have TPGK, you can't fold here. Took me ages to learn that lesson but its an important one!

That first hand his play isn't even that fishie imo, it's not great but ive def seen worse.

Like others have said though, bet more on the flop and DEF more on the turn, 80c, wtf?? As soon as you hit TP vs someone you consider a fish in a 3bet pot you should be trying to get the stack in.
 
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People have mentioned the bet sizing already, but the way the hand looked to me, you were the fish. Was the gay bet on the turn crying out for a 3bet? if so then congratulations your play wasn't half bad.

But like orange said you wanted to get his hole stack in here, Don't let varaince fool you, if he's the fish you say, he'll turn up with much worse later on and on and on. So no you can never fold.

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