$10 NLHE 6-max: Get value for quads

fletchdad

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BTN is a station, but I dont wanna bet this flop. IDK about the turn, I was thinking the J might help him but its so hard to say..... I just dont want to fold him out. I dont want to c/r OTT so OTR I have to make a stab, and he bites, so, shove or what size?

Please comment on the entire hand... so few hands on him and he seems so passive I dont want to move him off his hand, but how do I get the best value???

poker stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1747702
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Hero (CO): $25.21 - VPIP: 18, PFR: 12, 3B: 4, AF: 2.4, Hands: 232820
BTN: $8.46 - VPIP: 71, PFR: 0, 3B: 0, AF: 2.8, Hands: 21
SB: $17.96 - VPIP: 21, PFR: 16, 3B: 9, AF: 3.0, Hands: 214
BB: $12.89 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 14, 3B: 5, AF: 6.0, Hands: 240
UTG: $27.41 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 22, 3B: 8, AF: 3.3, Hands: 484
MP: $8.72 - VPIP: 25, PFR: 20, 3B: 11, AF: 1.6, Hands: 121

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with Q Q
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) Q 4 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($0.75) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

River: ($1.55) T (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, BTN raises to $1.60, Hero ??
 
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Shove the river, straight draws and flush draws get there on the river. There's plenty of things he could have on that board that he could stack off with.
 
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Agree with the flop check, unfortunate station didn't stab at it. But with those stats he is a follower, not a leader.

Turn bet...eh? his call suggests he is chasing a flush, or with that 72% VPIP he hit a 4, slightly lesser possibility he has TT, but he comes along, so he's ripe for a bigger river bet

His river re-raise tells me he is telling me he hit his flush or boat, and not bluffing else his bet should have been bigger.

A shove could fold him out, so a min re-re-raise will give him a good chance to try to value bet back.

Yeah, many will say shove, but since you can not lose here, all you really can do is win less. Play his silly game here and I'd guess he will get his stack in voluntarily.
 
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bet flop/turn/river. checking turn is terrible. as played shove the river.
 
fletchdad

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bet flop/turn/river. checking turn is terrible. as played shove the river.


yea I get that checking turn is prolly bad, but flop?? I have to give him a chance to catch up, and unless he has some big hand - hmmm - a flop bet will fold him out....
 
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He's a titanic station who won't give you credit for anything on the flop and there's a flush draw. Think about all the times you've had AK against this type of player and the flop is 723r and you bet and get called and you wonder WTF can he possibly call with? He's not folding a 4, a pp, a flush draw and probably calls with A-high.
 
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doný bet flop, let him catch up, bet turn and river, as big as pot.

as played I would just shove here/
 
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Just bet all three streets. Let the station do what he does.
 
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You make money in poker by getting people to make mistakes against you. This guys leak is that he calls too much, hence making a mistake, he cannot call and make a mistake if there is no bet to call.

Bet all three streets.
 
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I would bet the flop.

He probably won't think you have anything.
 
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please bet this flop, not only is he a big station, but people never believe you on paired boards.
unless 100% fold to cbet which is extremely unlikely given his preflop stats.

Agree with 3 barrels
as played shove.
 
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